It is not clear why tungsten would be a useful material to use in LENR applications. The fact that it does not absorb hydrogen isotopes well seems to suggest that any effects observed would necessarily be surface processes. Is there much information supporting the case that tungsten works for LENR? If it does, I wonder if the fact that it has several relatively long lived isomers is related.
Perhaps more effort needs to be expended in determining whether or not this material actually is useful in LENR. This might shed a lot of light upon the need for surface cracks or other defects to form the NAEs that allow LENR. Also, if tungsten works, then it might suggest that most other heavy metals would work as well. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Thu, Apr 26, 2012 4:22 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Pirelli Foundation funds successful LENR Cold Fusion Project Tungsten is interesting stuff when used in cold fusion. Hydrogen does not migrate or penetrate into it so many of the Brillouin and W&L theories are difficult to support when a tungsten lattice is used in cold fusion, It also has a high melting point so very high temperatures can be produced before the nano-powder is destroyed. On another note, I would like to see the water and potassium carbide replaced in the high school reactor with lithium hydride as the hydrogen carrier. If such a “mud” of tungsten nano-powder and liquid LiH can be pressurized to 30 bars very high temperature (1200C to 1500C) reaction might be produced. Such high heat can efficiently power a hot CO2 turbine at and efficiency of 60%. We will then enter the realm of industrial quality process heat production. Cheers: Axil On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Akira Shirakawa <shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com> wrote: On 2012-04-25 20:31, Axil Axil wrote: One of the criticisms of this high school experiment will come frome and will be based on the formation of various oxides of tungsten. The formation of these oxides will produce excess heat in the range from 130 to 220 Kcal/mol. This chemically derived source of heat should be eliminated by removing oxygen from the experiment. This change will get the high school experiment closer to what Rossi has done. Tungsten heat of oxidation Info can be found at http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=AD0269773 On 22passi, Passerini is gathering technical suggestions for Ugo Abundo from the L.Pirelli high school and a few resident engineers (one of them is even a friend of Sergio Focardi) in order to perform robust testing and take out any possible room for criticism. You could try posting this there, even in English, it will certainly help them. Here: http://22passi.blogspot.it/2012/04/spazio-riservato-ai-test-dellathanor.html (be warned that there's comment moderation enabled, messages don't appear right away in the blog post). Cheers, S.A.
