Mixent states: “First, you need to know which particles you are actually seeing in the cloud chamber.”
Axil quotes: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg49583.html “protons of 6-7 Mev energy have been confirmed (in a cloud chamber)” Mixent states: “IOW the fusion reactions themselves are delayed, not the relaxation. This is to be expected as tunneling of the proton into the nucleus is a statistical process.” Axil states: If the nickel bar is cold enough to handle: to put into a cloud chamber, the assumption is that the reaction has stopped and that the only thing going on is the relaxation process after the reaction has terminated. In other words, the presence of heat implies that the reaction is on-going. The lack of heat implies that the reaction has stopped. Of course, this cold condition of the bar is an assumption because no details of how the reactor was disassembled and the cloud chamber was loaded are given. Cheers: Axil On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:09 PM, <mix...@bigpond.com> wrote: > In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 30 Jun 2012 20:51:43 -0400: > Hi, > [snip] > >In this experiment, Piantelli removes one of his nickel rods from his > >reactor and places into in a cloud chamber. This operation must have had > to > >take an extended period of time assuming the reactor is cooled down enough > >to be disassembled. This means that the release of 6 MeV of cold fusion > >reaction energy derived from the binding force of nickel after it is > >transmuted into copper of a high energy proton takes a macroscopic amount > >of time: taking from minutes to hours. > > > >What supports this delay? > > First, you need to know which particles you are actually seeing in the > cloud > chamber. Are they positrons or heavier particles? If the former, then > these are > obviously from beta decay, and a delay is to be expected (half life). > If the latter (or electrons), then the delay is more likely to be due to > delayed > entry of the proton into the nucleus than due to delayed particle emission > from > the nucleus. > IOW the fusion reactions themselves are delayed, not the relaxation. This > is to > be expected as tunneling of the proton into the nucleus is a statistical > process. > > Regards, > > Robin van Spaandonk > > http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html > >
