Because Vortex-l was mentioned and linked to by people commenting at various websites in the last year, we have many new minds in the Collective.. that's good! Due to its very purpose of discussing the fringes of science and technology, it has at least looked under every stone, and in some cases may have even turned the stone over and poked around in the dirt! It's archives are completely open, and can be searched here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.com <http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.com&a=1> &a=1 Or if you want you can download them; just scroll down until you get to them here.. http://amasci.com/weird/wvort.html For example, if one does a search for 'Papp', one gets 110 hits going back to 2005: http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.com <http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.com&a=1&from=&subject= &haswords=Papp¬words=&datewithin=1d&date=&order=datenewest&start=100> &a=1&from=&subject=&haswords=Papp¬words=&datewithin=1d&date=&order=datene west&start=100 And Papp has been around since at least the mid-80s, and I'm sure that he was discussed at length prior to 2005, but apparently the web-interface can only search back to '05. One would need to search the downloadable archives for further messages. So please make use of the Collective's long-term memory if you want to know more about a topic. -Mark