please have empathy for them, including in the data release issue. and patience, What should I say I am at least 3 times older than you
peter On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Daniel Rocha <danieldi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Peter, > > I do not expect any theory to be simple. I think, as we discussed another > time, something multistage like photosynthesis. But I cannot think about > the if they do not release data with better accuracy! Given that there are > many stages, I have to separate what comes in different stages and > processes. Without more data, I cannot do that! > > > 2012/8/14 Peter Gluck <peter.gl...@gmail.com> > >> Dear Daniel, >> >> you well know that they are using some additives to enhance the process; >> Rossi has named these the Catalyst. The opinions inside the company nd for >> their friends are divided some say they are telling too much ( I am on this >> side too). >> Please focus on what is most valuable in what they say is that in order >> to get enrgy you maust work ahrd both on hydrogen and on Ni, otherwise itt >> does not work. They have found a way but I believe there are other ways >> too- all bassed on radica changes of the nature of H and Ni >> >> And do not wait simple theories tio be good, in your own intellectual >> interest >> >> Best wishes to you Daniel >> >> Peter >> >> >> Peter >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Daniel Rocha <danieldi...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Hi Peter, >>> >>> Those slides and also their paper presented on ICCF 17, which is also >>> available, are sadly inconclusive. They just add confusion to the mass. >>> >>> I asked someone to ask defkalion people if they had done isotope >>> analysis and to ask what were the light elements. >>> >>> They said they did no isotope analysis, yet they said there was no >>> transmutation of Ni. I don't know how could they conclude that. >>> >>> Also, they did not find Triton, He3 or He4 among the light elements. >>> They found lithium, beryllium and boron, though. >>> >>> So, they claim things completely different from any group before them. >>> They are sloppy and illogical . I am completely confused. Maybe they do not >>> have good intentions, after all? >>> >>> Considering only the paper presented in the conference, it is not clear >>> to me if they used isotopic ratio mass spectroscopy, which means, it seems >>> did not try to determine the isotopes, they just plotted the variation of >>> the mass of the samples with great accuracy. It's not possible to figure >>> out if the samples were contaminated. >>> >>> It seems they used this: >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductively_coupled_plasma_mass_spectrometry >>> >>> >>> When they should have also used: >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotope-ratio_mass_spectrometry >>> >>> Their data on small mass elements is still crazy, just with the crude >>> method. This is unlike anything that was seen before, as far as I know. >>> >>> 2012/8/14 Peter Gluck <peter.gl...@gmail.com> >>> >>>> Dear Friends, >>>> >>>> I have just published a paper inspired by Defkalion's recent >>>> publications. >>>> It is about LENR definition and theory and its *SPECIAL TARGET IS THE >>>> PARTICIPNTS* >>>> *OF THE THEORY PANEL AT ICCF 17.* >>>> >>>> >>>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2012/08/defkalion-big-bad-problem-is-definition.html >>>> >>>> Best wishes to you all, >>>> >>>> Peter >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Peter Gluck >>>> Cluj, Romania >>>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Daniel Rocha - RJ >>> danieldi...@gmail.com >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Peter Gluck >> Cluj, Romania >> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com >> >> > > > -- > Daniel Rocha - RJ > danieldi...@gmail.com > > -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
