On Thursday, September 13, 2012 12:25 PM Jones Beene said [snip] the 
prerequisite reaction for eventual solar conversion into 4He - is not only EASY 
in a confined cavity (instead of a gravity well) but is slightly gainful in its 
own right. [/snip]
Agreed, and well said  but to clarify, we outside the cavity are now at the 
well bottom relative to the suppression inside the confined cavity and it is we 
that appear to slow down in time like the occupants of a spaceship approaching 
C relative to a tiny observer in the cavity... Or said another way why from our 
perspective reactions appear to happen so much faster inside a catalyst like 
Rayney nickel and why Jan Naudts can describe the hydrino as being relativistic 
without and spatial displacement. It also explains claims of modified 
radioactive decay,
Fran


From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 12:25 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Bussard Ramjet


From: Robert Lynn

A Bussard Ramjet is a Rocket that scoops up hydrogen from the interstellar 
medium using a vast magnetic and/or electrostatic field, then fuses it and 
fires it out the back.  The concept has always had a major flaw in that 
hydrogen is nearly fusion-proof in conventional hot fusion except as part of 
Carbon-Nitrogen fuel cycle.

"fusion proof" is not accurate, IMO. In fact, the situation is almost the 
opposite.

The problem can be better stated as one in which the initial stage of hydrogen 
fusion is of extremely low gain. In fact, it is looking very much as if the 
reversible fusion reaction:

P+P -> 2He ->P+P

Which accounts for almost all of the nuclear reactions in any star ... and 
which is the prerequisite reaction for eventual solar conversion into 4He - is 
not only EASY in a confined cavity (instead of a gravity well) but is slightly 
gainful in its own right.

It has been assumed in most astrophysics models that proton fusion to 2He is no 
gain (e.g. on our sun), but it looks to me like the gain from QCD can amount to 
about 10^-16 eV per reaction on average. This explains part of the solar 
neutrino deficit.

And therefore this basic proton fusion reaction itself, cannot lead to a 
Bussard Ramjet, at least not as initially described. Since the much more robust 
beta-decay, which is necessary to transmute two protons into deuterium (from 
2He) is so rare, there can be no 3He or 4He in any such design due to time 
constraints. It requires approximately 10^20 P+P fusion reactions 
(sequentially) before a single beta decay is seen, and even then the deuterium 
does not survive long ... as the neutron is stripped off most of the time 
before further reaction to helium. If it were not so, stars like our sun would 
burn up long before their normal lifetime of ten+ billion years.

This only means that - in a revised Ramjet design - some portion of the 
interstellar hydrogen which collected, needs to be routed to LENR reactors, 
turned into heat and then into electricity in a completely separate system, so 
that the rest of the collected hydrogen (in the Ramjet funnel) can be 
magnetically compressed and accelerated as if in a beam line - using the 
electrical energy generated (from the portion of hydrogen which is fed to the 
LENR reactors).

The end result is almost the same.


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