Frank,

Just an idea. I know you want to run the system even when the water is off, but you could design the system to momentarily pressurize as long as the apex valve is open, then turn off.

Bob

At 08:01 PM 9/19/2012, you wrote:
I live in the city with gas hot water. Its not for me but its for an isolated cabin. It has a pressurized system, however, I want to transfer hot water to the tank even when the water is off.

I think the loop idea may work. It will only transfer a fraction of its flow rate to the tank and many have enough reserve lift to carry the cold water up.

It is getting a little late in the season to try it out.


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From: Robert Dorr <rod...@comcast.net>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:33 pm
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Frank;

I made the assumption you are on a city type pressurized water system, therefore no need to lift to roof. If your not, I see the dilemma. Pretty hard to do without some type of pump.

Bob



At 05:24 PM 9/19/2012, you wrote:


Frank,

How about just using black hose running in a back and forth direction from the bottom of your roof to its apex, with a temperature sensitive valve at the apex point, and a black hose, from the apex, running down the sunny side of your house into the hot water container in your basement. When the water at the apex of your roof attains a pre-selected temperature the valve opens and lets waterenter the system from the low point of your roof pushing the water into the container in the basement, until the temperature at the apex lowers to a predetermined temperature and shuts off. Repeat.

Bob
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Thanks Bob. The problem is that cold water must then be lifted to the roof from the basement. It takes lift to get it to go up.

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