Axil, I am not sure that it's relevant, but (at least what appears to be) odd deterministic heat cycling appears when H2 or D2 is loaded into Pd powder. See -
"Chaos in oscillatory heat evolution accompanying the sorption of hydrogen and deuterium in palladium" http://arxiv.org/abs/1209.3873 "An empirical dependence of frequency in the oscillatory sorption of H2 and D2 in Pd on the first ionization potential of noble gases" http://arxiv.org/abs/1105.1501 "Oscillatory Rates of Heat Evolution during Sorption of Hydrogen in Palladium" http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jp805414a My quick computation does not show any anomalous heat, but maybe some similar effects occur for Ni. -- Lou Pagnucco Axil wrote: > Piantelli also found the two channel effect in his radiation experiments. > This behavior was caused by the speed in which hydrogen loading was done > in > nickel. Slow loading produced radiation and fast loading produced heat. > > > > http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnewenergytimes.com%2Fv2%2Flibrary%2F2004%2F2004Focardi-EvidenceOfElectromagneticRadiation.pdf&ei=WqpaULaAFIXy0gGb94DABQ&usg=AFQjCNHu3w5dimV_JIaouNutOQePoXu2Pg&sig2=D0x1bSsDVfrhx7bM0uaKyg > > > > A formation of condensate of proton pairs would thermalize the energy > coming out of these LENR based nuclear reactions. > > > > If the proton condensate does not form, the LENR associated radiation > comes > out of the nucleus as energetic particles since there is no proton > condensate available to thermalize this nuclear energy. > > > > > Cheers: Axil > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:33 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Good points, Jeff >> >> Maybe, I'm assuming incorrectly, bu from Mosier-Boss paper excerpt - >> >> "These results indicated that there were at least two channels - an >> aneutronic channel that produced heat (the so-called true >> Fleischmann-Pons >> effect) and another channel that favored formation of energetic charged >> particles, neutrons, and tritium. It was Swartz [3] who suggested that, >> by >> adjusting the experimental parameters, one could >> switch from one channel to the other." >> >> - I surmised that rather than just fully aneutronic channels, there were >> also low energy neutrons, since (I think) transmutations have been >> reported >> in the absence of high energy neutron emissions. >> >> Yes, Pu-239 is very long-lived, but doesn't this mean it will hang >> around >> long enough to capture enough neutrons to convert to some shorter-lived >> isotope? And, similarly with other long-lived byproducts? >> >> -- Lou Pagnucco >> >> Jeff Berkowitz wrote: >> > I'm having a hard time making sense of this on several levels. >> > >> > For a one thing, the Mosier-Boss results (including the paper you link >> > below and previous papers, all found in a page on their site) document >> > fast >> > neutrons, not thermal neutrons. For another thing, fission would put >> the >> > lie to their waste claims. Methinks fission is fission; you're going >> to >> > get >> > the standard double-hump distribution of daughters, all radioactive. >> > >> > I suppose you could moderate and thermalize the neutrons, But after >> > neutron >> > capture (as opposed to fission) by U-238, a short decay chain ensues >> that >> > quickly lands on Pu-239, which is long-lived and fissile. Not exactly >> a >> > desirable result. >> > >> > Is there a real physicist in the house!? ;-) >> > >> > Jeff >> > >> > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:15 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> A company formed by some SPAWAR alumni (and others), Global Energy >> >> Corporation claims to have a green fission technology nearly ready >> for >> >> testing in smaller markets - >> >> >> >> GUAM POWER AUTHORITY EXPLORES NUCLEAR POWER >> >> Next generation facilities could reduce power costs >> >> http://pidp.eastwestcenter.org/pireport/2012/February/02-13-02.htm >> >> >> >> Virginia firm offers nuclear energy >> >> >> >> >> http://www.mvariety.com/cnmi/cnmi-news/local/46996-virginia-firm-offers-nuclear-energy.php >> >> >> >> (Company website) http://www.globalenergycorporation.net/ >> >> >> >> A possibly relevant ICCF-17 paper - >> >> "Its not Low Energy But it is Nuclear" - Pamela A. Mosier-Boss >> >> >> >> >> http://newenergytimes.com/v2/conferences/2012/ICCF17/ICCF-17-Mosier-Boss-Its-Not-Low-Energy-Paper.pdf >> >> >> >> My interpretation is that they expect to use LENR to generate >> relatively >> >> low-energy neutrons to initiate fission chains starting with U-238 >> and >> >> terminating in fairly harmless wastes. To me, it seems similar to >> the >> >> Thorium reactor approach. >> >> >> >> Their adviser list seems impressive. Any opinions? >> >> >> >> - Lou Pagnucco >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >
