http://smartscarecrow.com/2012/09/presentation-by-mark-leclair-of-nanospire/

The LeClair talk is up on the smartscarecrow site and starts at about 30:23
in.



Axil

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:

> From this recent presentation, I have gained new insight into what
> motivates LeClair to spend so much time on his fusion/water crystal
> research. This knowledge that he gains in this area is central to the
> success of his cavatation business.
>
> LeClair’s business model is built around ultra-high nano-precision based
> cavitation cutting.
>
> He saw that in many cases, there was an unknown factor in cavatation that
> caused unwanted randomized cutting going on. He could not explain it nor
> could he control it.
>
> Slide 17 shows some of the random results that led him to look into this
> problem. He saw both circular and straight grooving and strange tracks that
> he could not explain so he set out to find what was causing this
> unexplained behavior coming from his cavatation procedures.
>
> So that is how he came to find water crystals.
>
> Once he realized that these crystals were the causitive factor that was
> cutting material, he was able to come up with a mathematical model that
> closely predicted how cavatation cut most types of material. The existing
> model was an order of magnitude inaccurate in predicting cavatation erosion.
>
> This model is very valuable commercially and is closely held by Nanospire.
>
> LeClair also realized that the type of transmutation that was going on in
> cavatation could have massive military implications. He took it onto
> himself as a duty to humanity to characterize this threat to nuclear
> controls.
>
> This analysis included the formation of a model of the transmutation
> process.
>
> He informed the relevant authorities and they thanked him.
>
> From looking at slide 29, the bomb material U233, 235, and Pu239 at first
> glance look like to me that they are all denatured with even numbered
> isotopes which would require difficult isotopic separation procedures to
> purify them to bomb grade material.
>
> In closing, LeClair is an outcast among outcasts. I have noticed that many
> fringe groups show the same intolerance for new ideas that they themselves
> are subjected to. I have come to realize this propensity to intellectual
> intolerance is inherent in human nature; I myself suffer from it. I have
> accepted this behavior as part of the human condition. But close
> mindedness does very much slow our acquisition of new knowledge making our
> learning processes painfully slow.
>
>
>
>
> Cheers:     Axil
>
> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <a...@lomaxdesign.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Mark LeClair has a fantastic story to tell. It should be recognized that
>> very little of this story has been confirmed, yet some of it should be
>> rather easy to confirm. I haven't listened to the show, but did review the
>> slides.
>>
>> What I can tell, clearly, is that LeClair is theorizing way beyond what
>> he has evidence for. First things first.
>>
>> He has expertize in cavitation. So it is reasonable that he might find a
>> way to create bubble fusion. Bubble fusion is hot fusion.
>>
>> In slide 39, he presents his work as related to CF/LENR, but he includes
>> bubble fusion.
>>
>>  Cavitation Fusion in Other LENR Devices
>>> •Ultrasonics/Sonofusion:, Stringham, Impulse Devices
>>> •Pons-Fleischmann Cells, Taleyarkhan, JET
>>> •Cavitating Rotor-Stators: Griggs Hydrosonic Pump (Hydrodynamics, Inc.),
>>> Potopov, Energetics, Inc.
>>> •Brillouin? Defkalion? Rossi?
>>>
>>
>> It's well-known and not controversial: CF/LENR isn't hot fusion. It does
>> not produce neutrons, except possibly in very small quantities through rare
>> branches or secondary reactions. Bubble fusion is hot fusion. Talyarkhan's
>> work involved a claim of detecting bubble fusion through the emission of
>> neutrons.
>>
>> Bubble fusion allegedly works through the generation of very high
>> temperatures. If neutrons are generated, this is certainly hot fusion, to
>> distinguish it from cold fusion.
>>
>> By lumping all those approaches together, LeClair demonstrates that he
>> doesn't understand cold fusion at all. He claimed massive radiation
>> poisoning, which would be from massive neutron generation. His effect, if
>> he knows how to create it, and he's claimed more than one massive radiation
>> event, should be easy to demonstrate, plus such a massive event would leave
>> lots of traces. Material that he claimed to be transmuted was sent to Dr.
>> Storms, who found nothing unusual with it.
>>
>> LeClair's work, if real, has massive military implications. They would be
>> all over it, and we know that cold fusion scientists with extensive
>> military connections are aware of his claims. Nobody, other than LeClair
>> and Lebid -- who is almost completely silent -- has confirmed any of his
>> story, as to what indicates a massive anomaly.
>>
>> It's worse than the situation with Rossi et al. There, at least with
>> Rossi, there have been public demonstrations. We may argue that the
>> demonstrations were not conclusive, but at least they happened.
>>
>> And LeClair claims no new science. Really? ZPE self-powered flying water
>> crystals, reaching relativistic velocities? No new physics?
>>
>> My point is that LeClair doesn't know what he's doing in his
>> presentations. He's off the edge.
>>
>> If what he's found is real, if he is not literally insane, the path he is
>> following is to imitate someone who is crazy.
>>
>> A small demonstration device, sold with plenty of caveats, would turn
>> this completely around. It doesn't have to be commercially ready. A device
>> for the investigation of the effect. But people like LeClair and Rossi et
>> al don't do that. That would be "giving away" the secret. While the
>> position is understandable, it's also highly paranoid. Essentially, it
>> defines the world as not-ready-for-change.
>>
>> Because if "they" have the money and power to cheat the inventor if the
>> inventor reveals the secrets, they also have the money and power to
>> penetrate any such secret.
>>
>> LeClair might seem to have revealed the secret, but he hasn't. You could
>> not replicate his work with the information in the slide show. All that you
>> could do is to try to explore cavitation, which plenty of people have been
>> doing.
>>
>> At 11:02 PM 9/20/2012, Axil Axil wrote:
>>
>>  <http://smartscarecrow.com/wp-**content/uploads/2012/09/**
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>>>
>>>
>>> Mark LeClair presented his thesis and supporting evidence(see reference
>>> above) in a live presentation on 9/20/2012.
>>>
>>> This presentation will be available on YouTube shortly.
>>>
>>> In slide 39, mark said that the Pons-Fleischmann effect is just a very
>>> weak version of the LeClair effect. Could the water crystal be the active
>>> agent in the PF effect.
>>>
>>>
>>> If this equivalency is true, could a tradeoff between the radiation and
>>> transmutation of cavatation in the LeClair effect be made by using nickel
>>> or palladium as the target material in the cavatation reactor where proton
>>> pairs on the surface of these metals might form and thermalize the nuclear
>>> reactivity of the water crystal(slide 16)?
>>>
>>> On Slide 20, LeClair shows how a water crystal had carved a 5 foot
>>> trench in a coil of copper wire.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers:   Axil
>>>
>>
>> Slide 20 doesn't show that at all. It does show a coil of copper wire,
>> more like 5 cm long than 5 feet. It shows a broken copper wire. Which means?
>>
>> From LeClair's last slide:
>>
>>  • Cavitation reentrant jets generating the LeClair Effect are the key to
>>> harnessing fusion and producing transmuted material on an industrial scale.
>>> NanoSpire leads the field in both results and theory
>>>
>>
>> In isolated, unconfirmed results, no controls, and no "harnessing" has
>> been shown. There has been no conclusive demonstration of transmuted
>> material. EDX results, without controls, are almost useless, because of how
>> ubiquitous materials turn out to be when you use these sophisticated
>> methods of analysis. Anything, almost literally, is everywhere. The issue
>> is shifts in quantity, and because a process can move stuff around, this
>> can be tricky. "Before and after" aren't adequate, for example.
>> Electrolysis is famous for concentrating materials on the surface of the
>> cathode, they can migrate from impurities anywhere in the cell.
>>
>>  • NanoSpire’s cavitation reactor generated 2900 watts of hot water flow
>>> using only 840 watts of electrical input, a coefficient of performance
>>> (COP) of 3.4
>>>
>>
>> Unconfirmed. If LeClair saw this, sure, he's excited. But he's also way
>> over-interpreting and perhaps misinterpreting his results. It does not
>> inspire confidence.
>>
>>  • The LeClair Effect correctly explains excess heat and transmutation
>>> seen in many LENR devices without the need for new physics, such as heavy
>>> electrons, plasmons or other proposed particles or reactions
>>>
>>
>> So, ZPE self-acceleration of an alleged new crystal form of water, to
>> relativistic velocities, is not "new physics"? LENR is reported in many
>> contexts where cavitation fusion makes no sense at all. Gas-loaded
>> nanoparticle palladium? Not to mention that LENR results, so far, don't
>> produce neutrons, and only produce transmutations in very small quantities.
>> LeClair got very sick, he claims, from radiation poisoning. If he was
>> producing hot fusion, he would indeed get very sick, unless serious
>> precautions were taken. Cold fusion, no. This claim then shows that LeClair
>> has no idea what he's talking about. He may have had dramatic experiences,
>> but he's turning that into his being the scientific genius of the century.
>> The thinking pattern isn't unfamiliar.
>>
>>  •The LeClair Effect produces intense fusion
>>>
>>
>> If it works, yes. Hot fusion, intense. Which is unmistakeable. And if he
>> can do that with cavitation, what he's done is amazing, but more than
>> amazing. It's dangerous as hell, and the military would be all over this,
>> and since it's highly likely that the military knows about the claims, and
>> the military doesn't give a fig about "established theory," that he is
>> being allowed to publicize this shows a high likelihood that their own
>> investigation has shown "nothing here."
>>
>> If that's incorrect, LeClair could rather easily, if he has done what
>> he's claimed, refute it. This has been going on for, what, more than a year?
>>
>>   with many different substrates and most importantly, even without a
>>> substrate under the right conditions. This means that no electrochemistry,
>>> lattice-based theories (Widom-Larsen, Brillouin, others), palladium, nickel
>>> or any catalysts are required to produce fusion
>>>
>>
>> That's right. Just get stuff really, really hot, and you will get fusion.
>> "Substrate" is something needed in condensed matter, and there is no such
>> thing as condensed matter at fusion temperatures. That LeClair might reach
>> fusion temperatures with cavitation isn't intrinsically impossible. So that
>> he could create hot fusion isn't intrinsically impossible.
>>
>> But flying self-accelerated relativistic velocities for a new crystalline
>> form of water? At one point I asked what the experimental basis was for
>> conclusing that. LeClair didn't answer with anything clear.
>>
>> If LeClair isn't crazy, or maybe even if he is, how about a small machine
>> that demonstrates the effect? Yes, dangerous, so sold with plenty of
>> warnings. Lots of things are dangerous and can be sold. Or even a large
>> complicated machine, if that's necessary. He'd set it up, and demonstrate
>> it to customers, who could observe it all, having signed an NDA (if some of
>> the technology must be kept secret, covering the secret). If, using this
>> machine, which can be a black box, lots of neutrons are generated, that's
>> valuable all by itself, such machines are currently quite expensive.
>>
>> I'm not holding my breath.
>>
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