Jed,
I like your analogy with CPU's industry (and more generally with IC industry). In this particular industry, there are 3 main fields: Basic research Conception Manufacturing For the 2 fields that are conception and manufacturing, there is currently nothing occurring for LENR (except a small start from Rossi). Without a "proof of concept", it's too early to invest there. Once it will be demonstrated that a LENR device can be scaled up and controlled, private investments will flow from everywhere. The LENR issue isn't currently here. But for the Basic Research, we can try to compare the IC industry with LENR and correlated investment needed: Nowadays the IC technology is mature but still evolves slowly in parallel with nano researches. The research in the IC technology has allowed the nano technology to become available to the laboratory and now in our daily life. The investment actually done in basic researches in IC technology compared to the business in this field is quite low. The IC technology business doesn't need to invest into basic research as it is mature. The nano technology is the daughter of the IC technology. The nano is now the place to be. That's where the money is spent for researching. IC technology has slowly started. It started with the American space program Apollo. The money came from the US government. It was war against the Russian. Without the communist threat, the IC technology might have come later. A pioneer in IC tech was Intel, and it's still the leader in conception and manufacturing of IC devices. They came with the 4004 in early 70's and so on up to i7. I would like to know what the Intel's budget for Basic researches was in 60s and early 70s. On the contrary, LENR is an unknown area, a terra incognita. LENR requires a lot of investment, a huge endorsement by the Scientifics. Nothing is especially new here, as everyone in vortex known. Anyway, this will not be carried by private money unless something reliable might be proven. So the government, (and so the public money) should take over. But it doesn't. So who will do it? To win the political battle, a workable LENR device is required. The device must be scaled up easily and controllable. The Rossi device (Hot or cold Cat) is not controllable. Otherwise Rossi will not speak about COP. Speak about COP for a LENR device means that the device is not controllable. I'm pretty sure that soon or later a reactor will burn out (or worse, explode) in the hand of an eCat customer. The Celani device is not controllable. But on the contrary of Rossi, this device is replicable and might interest others in the field as it is done currently by the MFMP team. Defkalion and Brillouin are black boxes for me. They have maybe something controllable, but is it scaled up easily? Arnaud _____ From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: vendredi 9 novembre 2012 20:11 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Reasons to be optimistic we will win the political battle ken deboer <barlaz...@gmail.com> wrote: Not quite cottage, but local full service lenr dealers and installers. Some of these may carry 'off brand' or locally made small scale, lenr devices special built for local or idiiosyncratic uses. That would resemble the place I bought my latest computer: http://www.ttcomputer.com/ They assemble custom-built computers with a lot more oomph than most off-the-shelf ones sold by Dell or HP. Oomph because I hate to wait, and also so that voice input goes smoothly. I got an i7 CPU when they first came out. The high tech manufacturing was done by Intel, and these people only assembled the parts. They do not do much but it is a valuable add-on service for me, and I am willing to pay a small premium for it. It could turn out that actual cells can be made by small companies. I can't rule that out. But at this point I predict they will be more like batteries, computer CPU chips, hard disks, and other devices that require precision, cleanliness and robotic assembly. I do not expect they will be as capital intense or demanding as computer CPU fabs. According to Wikipedia, Intel has 8 fabs. Intel does not have much competition. Including the competition I suppose there are ~20 general purpose CPU fabs in the whole world. I expect there will be hundreds of factories that manufacture cold fusion devices of various sizes, for various purposes. - Jed
