Axil, absolutely right, yet I agree with Jack about the implementation.
When I did that LTSpice analysis of the simplified circuit, I was very
clear about how big a simplification it was for me to leave out the
isolation transformer and the loading current. The entire circuit as
described in the patent is quite complex and subtle. The pulse generator is
very close to oscillation; poor construction techniques alone are probably
enough to make it ring like a bell instead of producing pulses that can be
modulated from the microcontroller as described in the patent.

Jack, I think really understanding the isolation transformer T8 is
essential to solving the problem with the loading current. The
microcontroller/pulse generator and the wet cell are separate circuits with
separate grounds. I don't think the circuit will work as described if the
two sides of T8 have a common ground anywhere. In fact I think it might
result in letting the smoke out.

And it's always worth mention that the circuit in the patent is potentially
deadly.

The issue that has blocked our little group from taking this on is the cost
of the test equipment. Without a high-bandwidth oscilloscope to look at the
Q pulses, you are blind. Based on my own experience (with vaguely similar
designs for driving large piezo transducers in sonar systems), the drive
circuit is unlikely to work as intended without testing and fussing and
adjustment, so being blind does not sound like a path to success. I think
300Mhz bandwidth is the bare minimum, a GHz scope would be better. These
cost money.

Let us know how it goes.

Jeff



On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CDAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Flenr-canr.org%2Facrobat%2FGodesRcontrolled.pdf&ei=iV6uUL25CaeF0QHQqIG4DA&usg=AFQjCNHuzrqKGBNAwRi7rIW-VMSkqLKLHA&sig2=7Pt74QjBK5CUU6fNvN-1OQ
>
> *Controlled Electron Capture and the Path Toward Commercialization*
>
> From the reference as follows:
>
> “The AC stimulation consists of alternating high voltage positive and
> negative pulses, approximately 100ns wide, of duty cycles up to 1% or
> repetition rates of up to 100KHz”
>
> This is called reverse field current in plasma physics. It produces a
> counter rotating plasmoid in the shape of a ring. The plasmoid moves
> forward in a dielectric like a rolling smoke ring.
>
>
>
> This alternating pulse current is not an AC current. It produces very high
> Instantaneous power. IMHO, the pulse cycle should be modified so that a
> weak positive pulse acts as a pre-iodization pulse for the negative pulse.
> The power delivered by the negative pulse could therefore be further
> increased. The current is high but the short pulse duration keeps the thin
> wire from damage.
>
> IMHO, Your experiment should include a comparison of various pulse regimes
> to compare for optimized heat production.
>
>
> Cheers:     Axil
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Jack Cole <jcol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Axil,
>>
>> Yes, that is the plan.  I'm still trying to understand exactly what Godes
>> does.  It turns out to not be real easy to get a bipolar (AC) pulse at
>> ~200V along with the loading DC.  High frequency/high voltage AC is the key
>> at a specific pulse width to get the conductor skin effect (
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_effect).  You won't get that with DC
>> pulses.
>>
>> Also, in this early test cell, it looks like he is using more than 2
>> electrodes in the cell.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFrDlcnjth8
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> Jack
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:28 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Jack,
>>>
>>> I suggest that you rerun your experiment with nanosecond duration pulsed
>>> direct current using capacitive discharge.
>>>
>>> You have not tested the hypothesis that high instantaneous pulse power
>>> output will trigger over unity power production as has been demonstrated
>>> by  Brillouin Energy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers:   Axil
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Jack Cole <jcol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>
>>>> I have completed a long series of experiments utilizing borax, standard
>>>> nickels (combined with thoriated tungsten rods), and an automated Android
>>>> phone control system.  Although I developed some cool methods of running
>>>> experiments, I have to conclude that I found no anomalous heating.
>>>>
>>>> Here is the final write-up and presentation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.lenr-coldfusion.com/2012/11/22/automated-android-electrolysis-system-experiments-1-25/
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Jack
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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