Like Mike, I also hope Mills will cut the way for CIHT from milliwatts to Megawatts during my lifetime. Peter.
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Mike Carrell <mi...@medleas.com> wrote: > Over the years, I have learned to read Mills’ very carefully. The present > website is a milestone on a road ahead. His policy has been to publish his > progress while building and protecting BLP’s patent position. I see hints > of more tricks in the CIHT technology. He is at a point of establishing the > CIHT technology,, but what the validators did and reported is not a > commercial product. A **domestic** product has to be like a water heater, > buy-and-forget. One of the validators is from a company that makes high > performance insulation; their report is worth reading. How the module in > started, and how it performs with a intermittent household load, is not > obvious yet from the website. Mills is an extraordinarily brilliant man who > has thought through these matters. There is list ‘Society for Classical > Physics’ which Mills monitors and gives terse response to sensible > questions. **** > > ** ** > > All Mills’ work will be a footnote unless the BLP technology is applied > worldwide. Eventually there will be utility-scale projects and cars going > over a thousand miles on a liter of water. The 1.5 kW module will power > homes in a good part of the world, and does not have to qualify as a > ‘public utility’; it is a brilliant stroke. Eventually petroleum for fuel > will become obsolete [it is really too valuable o burn]; nuclear will be > obsolete; ‘solar’ will be obsolete’ ‘wind’ will be obsolete; economic and > political structures based on the control of energy sources will become > irrelevant. With unlimited, heap, safe energy we can recycle everything and > desalinate the oceans for drinking water and irrigation. The CIHT > technology is scalable; eventually it will power tools and toys.**** > > ** ** > > Mike Carrell**** > > ** ** > > *From:* David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] > *Sent:* Monday, November 26, 2012 4:12 PM > > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:E Mallove: LENR/"Cold Fusion" and Modern Physics: A > Crisis Within a Crisis ???**** > > ** ** > > Thanks for the explanation for the site structure. I would like very much > to see this technology advance as it would be idea to power automobiles for > example if the energy density is adequate and can be extracted quickly. > The requirement for elevated operating temperature gives me pause. I have > the suspicion that energy can be stolen from the heating source and > delivered to the test load unless some means is used to take into account > the energy required as heat. **** > > ** ** > > The Blacklight device will have to compete with the other energy systems > if it is to be successful, and I am attempting to hold it to the same > standards as are applied to the others. With that in mind, I have to > assume that anything that has not been demonstrated as a total system could > be vaporware. A convincing test would be one where the heat required to > operate the device is self supplied.**** > > ** ** > > Can I assume that the original heat required to jump start the device must > be supplied by a conventional battery? If this is true, then I would hope > that the input heat energy is a small portion to that soon supplied by the > device. I am thinking of a car propulsion system.**** > > ** ** > > Dave > > **** > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Carrell <mi...@medleas.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Mon, Nov 26, 2012 3:29 pm > Subject: RE: [Vo]:E Mallove: LENR/"Cold Fusion" and Modern Physics: A > Crisis Within a Crisis ???**** > > Admittedly, the current BLP website might be confusing to one who has not > been following Mills’ work. I have, yet it takes me a bit of work too. It > might help to understand that the website is a set of ‘lab notes’, the > latest in a series decades long. It establisher continuing ‘reduction > practice’ of the discoveries contained in the massive Grand Unified Theory > of classical Physics, which is a free download from the website. Read > carefully the ‘Validation’. Six competent observers were independently > given a briefing by Mills, and then assembled a small test ell and tested > it with instruments whose calibrations were traceable to national > standards. The data tables are available on the website. For these test > cells, the energy gain is in the low multiples and the net power low, like > a flashlight battery. But the cells run for months. One of the observers > extrapolated the potential power density to the kW/liter range, but > practical considerations, now being explored, may point to a lower level. > A 10 watt ‘battery’ has been achieved, with 100 watts a target for 2012 and > 1.5 kW next year. The current capacity is proportional to the area of the > cell lamina, and the voltage proportional to the number of cell laminas in > a stack. The water vapor [gas] must permeate the whole stack to realize > maximum output. The cell operates at 450C to liquefy some lithium > compounds as conductors, and the cell must be well insulated against heat > loss; the energy to initiaed the operation is not part of the energy > budget. **** > > **** > > Do not judge this cell as one would judge a LENR cell; it is a different > beast altogether and requires study on its own terms.**** > > **** > > Mike Carell**** > > **** > > *From:* David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com <dlrober...@aol.com?>] > *Sent:* Monday, November 26, 2012 11:09 AM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:E Mallove: LENR/"Cold Fusion" and Modern Physics: A > Crisis Within a Crisis ???**** > > **** > > I took a quick look at the Blacklight web site and came away a little > confused. Perhaps someone can help explain the currently observed excess > power to drive power ratio in clear terms. Exactly how much excess power > is being produced with the current technology at what level of input drive? > I recall that milliwatts were all that is presently available as excess > output while it is anticipated that much more will be possible with further > development. Is this correct? **** > > **** > > Has a 1.5 kilowatt output device prototype been constructed as of today? > If not, what is the highest excess output power seen in prototypes thus > far? What is the required drive level to achieve the measured output > level? I am seeking accurate and direct answers to these questions. > Please do not respond with assumed future performance.**** > > **** > > Dave**** > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Carrell <mi...@medleas.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Mon, Nov 26, 2012 9:29 am > Subject: RE: [Vo]:E Mallove: LENR/"Cold Fusion" and Modern Physics: A > Crisis Within a Crisis ???**** > > BLP is distinctly non-nuclear, but rather anew hyper-chemistry. The > reactions that convert H atoms to hydrinos release energy in several forms, > including intense VUV [vacuum ultraviolet light, ‘blacklight’]. The > chemical reactions in the ell are described in an article on the website. > These are complex but result in charge separation so the cell behaves like > a fuel cell, but the energy release internally is quite different. Con > formation of the cell performance by six different observers is given under > the “Validation” tab. Further outside, unpublished, tests have occurred. > The reactions induce H atoms to shrink by a factor of four, releasing some > 245 eV per atom, some 200 times the energy needed to separate a H atom from > water. Each elemental cell produces a fraction of a volt; the task at hand > is to revise a manufacturing process to make an inexpensive battery module > containing hundreds of elemental cells. The basic materials are cheap and > plentiful. A strong patent base is being built to repay investors. Patents > run out and as the technology becomes widely understood and accepted, > manufacture of the BLP modules can be widespread. The process is > non-polluting and water is for the taking everywhere. I leave the > consequences to your sweet dreams.**** > > **** > > Mike Carrell**** > > **** > > *From:* alain.coetm...@gmail.com > [mailto:alain.coetm...@gmail.com<alain.coetm...@gmail.com?>] > *On Behalf Of *Alain Sepeda > *Sent:* Monday, November 26, 2012 4:10 AM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:E Mallove: LENR/"Cold Fusion" and Modern Physics: A > Crisis Within a Crisis ???**** > > **** > > if confirmed, great news. > > I've computed that with reactors similar to Hyperion and E-cat, the > greatest cost is in heat to mechanic conversion, where best cost is very > big turbines (500$/kW at 100MWe, to compare to 2000$/MW at 10kWe)... If > there is no conversion to do, keeping the low cost of LENR... thats a > festival. 8) > > I'm curious about the principle of that direct conversion, since it does > not look like the other numerous LENR experiments (other electrolytic cells > produce heat, not electricity)... > The principle seems described here > http://www.blacklightpower.com/technology/ciht-cell/ , yet I don't catch > all... It is claimed non nuclear, and if I read well the produced hydrinos > are the "ashes" of the reaction... so more like a "super chemical" than a > LENR ?**** > > 2012/11/26 Mike Carrell <mi...@medleas.com>**** > > To Alan sepeda and Vortex who may be interested:**** > > **** > > For several years I was a close associate of Gene Mallove and for a while > on his board of directors. I wrote a number of articles for Infinite > Energy,, on Joseph Newman, Paulo Correa and PAGD, and Arata. Gene pointed > me to Randell Mills and Blacklight Power, which I have closely followed for > decades. BLP is now scaling up a water-fuel energy cell which produces > electricity directly, which no LENR device has done. BLP’s goal is a 1.5 kW > power module for domestic use, with an estimated installed cost of $100/kW. > BLP is privately financed, with representatives of major financial houses > on its board of directors. Details are available on the website, > www.blacklightpower.com. I have visited the Correa’s home/lab and seen a > demonstration of the PAGD cell working as described in my article.**** > > **** > > If any reader here wishes to correspond with me, I will be happy to > reciprocate.**** > > Mike Carrell**** > > **** > > *From:* alain.coetm...@gmail.com [mailto:alain.coetm...@gmail.com] *On > Behalf Of *Alain Sepeda > *Sent:* Thursday, November 22, 2012 10:45 AM > *To:* Vortex List > *Subject:* [Vo]:E Mallove: LENR/"Cold Fusion" and Modern Physics: A > Crisis Within a Crisis ???**** > > **** > > Reading the latest article of ruby carra and the science.or research on > LENR > > http://coldfusionnow.org/science-gov-cold-fusion-lenr-science-power-and-engineering/ > > I've found that article of Eugene mallove > http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2004APS..MARA15006M > just the abstract. > > no reference to it on internet beside that site, and > believe me if you dare, not even on lenr-canr.org > > > it is not of the greatest importance, but it might be interesting. > > > does anyone have a copy (maybe the name changed)**** > > *Title:***** > > LENR/"Cold Fusion" and Modern Physics: A Crisis Within a Crisis**** > > *Authors:***** > > Mallove, Eugene F. > E.<http://adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/author_form?author=Mallove,+E&fullauthor=Mallove,%20Eugene%20F.%20E.&charset=UTF-8&db_key=PHY> > **** > > *Affiliation:***** > > AA(New Energy Foundation, Inc. P.O. Box 2816, Concord, NH 03302-2816, USA) > **** > > *Publication:***** > > American Physical Society, March Meeting 2004, March 22-26, 2004, Palais > des Congres de Montreal, Montreal, Quebec, Canada, MEETING ID: MAR04, > abstract #A15.006**** > > *Publication Date:***** > > 03/2004**** > > *Origin:***** > > APS <http://www.aps.org>**** > > *Bibliographic Code:***** > > 2004APS..MARA15006M <http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2004APS..MARA15006M>*** > * > Abstract**** > > The primary theorists in the field of Cold Fusion/LENR have generally > assumed that the excess heat phenomena is commensurate with nuclear ash > (such as helium), whether already identified or presumed to be present but > not yet found, and moreover that it can be explained by hydrided metal > lattice structures acting coherently. Though this was an excellent initial > hypothesis, the commensurate nuclear ash hypothesis has not been proved, > and appears to be approximately correct in only a few experiments. At the > same time, compelling evidence has also emerged for other microphysical > sources of energy that were unexpected by accepted physics. The exemplars > have been the work Dr. Randell Mills and his colleagues at BlackLight Power > Corporation and Dr. Paulo and Alexandra Correa in Canada.This has led to a > crisis within a crisis: Neither "cold fusion" nor "Modern Physics" will be > able to explain the full range of experimental data now available---not > even the data within "mainstream" cold fusion/LENR per se--- by insisting > that the fundamental paradigms of Modern Physics are without significant > flaw. The present crisis is of magnitude comparable to the Copernican > Revolution. Neither Modern Physics nor Cold Fusion/LENR will survive in > their present forms when this long delayed revolution has run its course. > **** > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > This Email has been scanned for all viruses by Medford Leas I.T. > Department.**** > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > This Email has been scanned for all viruses by Medford Leas I.T. > Department.**** > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > This Email has been scanned for all viruses by Medford Leas I.T. > Department.**** > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > This Email has been scanned for all viruses by Medford Leas I.T. > Department.**** > -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
