I agree that HUP/ZPE can be exploited.. but we have been told/taught in physics 
that you can't extract energy from gas motion or other forms of zero point 
energy.. I don't think all these anomalous claims of heat contradict COE as 
much as COE  is simply defined wrong to  exclude HUP energy as a possible 
source... I think that rule can be broken at the quantum level provided we take 
steps to prevent natures  tendency to either negate [stiction] these forces or 
self destruct - the self destruct may be the only reason Mills and Rossi have 
to replace their materials.
Regards
Fran
From: Axil Axil [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:The value of pulsing in bursts


On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Roarty, Francis X 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
,  we have been told this energy can never  be trapped [Maxwell's' demon]...

This is not true, at least for a time.

See the thread, "An electromagnetic black hole" for my example.


Cheers:     Axil

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