Here's the peswiki article: http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Michaud_Atmospheric_Vortex_Engine
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 4:41 PM, James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> wrote: > By the way, the pesn article on AVE is utterly brain-dead. I tried to > correct it last year but, of course, anyone with actual knowledge of the > subject is banned. > > The vortex's structure is maintained by the source of vorticity which is > in the engine itself. Outside of the engine, the lack of vorticity > destroy's the structure and it quickly becomes little more than an updraft. > > Vorticity is simple to understand: > > If you have a big circular pool of water that is still, there is no > vorticity. If you rotate the pool of water about the center of the circle > the body of water has vorticity. If you open a hole in the bottom center > of the circle and let water drain out, the inward flowing water acts the > way a skater that is spinning around does when drawing their arms inward -- > the rotation rate increases. This is why you get a funnel shape and the > vorticity becomes helicity. Tornadoes form when you have two bodies of air > flowing past each other in opposite directions resulting in places where > there is vorticity. If these form over places where there is a lot of heat > content in the air close to the ground, the effect is the same as pulling > the plug in the bottom of the pool, except its upward instead of downward > force -- and you get the angular momentum forming a tornado that sucks the > angular momentum in toward the center maintaining the structure. In an AVE > there is no ambient vorticity -- it all comes from the AVE structure > itself. Although only a few percent of the total tornado energy is > required to be put into vorticity in order to maintain the chimney > structure for the updraft, if you cut off the vorticity energy, the rest of > the structure dissipates. > > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 12:46 PM, James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> This is the proposal I suggested to Michaud submit to Breakout Labs a >> year ago almost to the day. This really is a huge deal: >> >> Atmospheric Vortex Engine >> >> EXECUTIVE SUMMARY >> >> Develop sufficient understanding of vortices with high Reynolds numbers, >> such as tornadoes and hurricanes to allow investment in construction of >> full scale Atmospheric Vortex Engines. This would be accomplished by >> building a model AVE capable of generating an atmospheric vortex >> approximately 100 meters high. Measurements made on this vortex would then >> refine existing CFD models of vortices -- models which are surprisingly >> untested for high Reynolds numbers. >> >> The CFD model, validated for high Reynolds number vortices, would then be >> applied to the design of larger scale AVE’s to estimate their performance. >> The economics full scale AVEs would then be evaluated and, if found >> profitable, provide start of a business plan. >> >> >> LONG TERM VISION STATEMENT >> >> 10 Peta Watts renewable baseload electrical generation with no pollution. >> The global deployment of AVEs turns the Earth into a heat engine using >> space for its heat sink. The work of these heat engines is turned into >> electrical power by compact, high power turbines. >> >> Deploying AVEs in the tropical oceans would provide ocean settlements >> with copious quantities of fresh water rain and electrical power while >> controlling hurricanes. These settlements would reduce population >> pressures while developing new options for voluntary experiments in the >> social sciences that may prove useful in existing polities as well as >> potential new space settlements. >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:48 AM, James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 3:25 AM, Peter Gluck <peter.gl...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Atmospheric Vortex Engine creates tornadoes to generate electricity >>>> http://www.gizmag.com/vortex-engine-tornadoes-electricity/25508/ >>>> >>>> Not to be classified as OT, Vortex was created illo tempora to >>>> discuss CF-related subjects including the Griggs and the Potapov >>>> machines. See also vortex tubes as kind of Maxwell machines, >>>> real but of low efficiency. >>>> >>> >>> *www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com*/?p=501&cpage=5 >>> >>> James *Bowery* <http://jimbowery.blogspot.com/> >>> July 23rd, 2011 at 2:40 >>> PM<http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=501&cpage=5#comment-55946> >>> >>> I should clarify that when I say the *Atmospheric* Vortext *Engine* is >>> “least capital intensive” I mean per installed power (ie: $/W). I’ll show >>> the calculation for two cases where the exhaust temperature is a more >>> conservative -30C and the capital cost is as currently estimated for the >>> ambient heat case of $300/kW ( >>> http://vortexengine.ca/PPP/AVEtec_Business_Case.pdf): >>> >>> 1) Ambient temperature of 20C Carnot efficiency: >>> >>> 17% = (293.15Kelvin-243.15Kelvin)/293.15Kelvin >>> >>> 2) E-Cat temperature of 300C Carnot efficiency: >>> >>> 57% = (573.15Kelvin-243.15Kelvin)/573.15Kelvin >>> >>> less than $100/kW = (17%/57%)*$300/kW >>> >>> That’s less than 10 cents an installed Watt capitalization. >>> >>> Nothing else comes close. >>> James *Bowery* <http://jimbowery.blogspot.com/> >>> July 23rd, 2011 at 1:01 >>> PM<http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=501&cpage=5#comment-55918> >>> >>> In areas with low peak annual winds, the least capital-intensive >>> technology to turn E-Cat heat into baseload electricity is likely to be the >>> *Atmospheric* *Vortex* *Engine* <http://vortexengine.ca/index.shtml>. >>> With an exhaust temperature of nearly -60C, the Carnot efficiency can be >>> very high with virtually no thermal pollution. >>> >> >> >
