there's a big difference between disdain for having a view, and suggesting
that because you belong to a group, you must be a murdering pedophile bent
on the destruction of other groups.

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:16 AM, Jojo Jaro <jth...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> **
> Eric, I forgot to mention.
>
> What would you do if you are the subject of constant insults and ridicule
> for your views?  Would you not lash out in retaliation?  Your bias is why I
> grow more instransigent each day.  You express "grave concern" that islam
> may be "assaulted" but express no equal concern that I have been insulted
> time and time again here for my beliefs in the Bible.
>
> Well you ask "what you would do if you were in Abd's situation".  Why
> don't you ask another equally valid question. "What would you do if you
> were in Jojo's position."
>
> This problem has a very very very simple solution you know.
>
>
>
> Jojo
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com>
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 03, 2013 2:02 PM
> *Subject:* [Vo]:something to consider
>
> I am starting this as a new thread because many people are starting to
> skip entire threads.  See my questions below.
>
> I wrote "If that's the best we can do for now, how to address Abd's
> pressing concern about having his background and religion subject to
> constant assault on this list?"  But really this is a concern that pertains
> to all of us.  We need a list that is hospitable to all people who can make
> a competent contribution.  (I do not mean *everybody*.  I do not mind in
> the slightest if list mods take action to make the list quite inhospitable
> to those who for whatever reason are too immature to contribute much of
> value.)
>
> Think about what you would do if you were in Abd's situation.  Perhaps you
> would just abide the assault quietly.  Perhaps you would leave the list.
>  But that would not make the environment any more hospitable for others in
> shoes similar to yours.  You may not respond in the way that Abd has.  But
> we should appreciate that he's being put in a very awkward position and
> that he has broader interests in mind.
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>  On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <a...@lomaxdesign.com> 
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>  Oh, I'm quivering, shaking with the possibility that *Jed Rothwell*
>>> might filter me out.
>>>
>>> I am not going to subscribe to VortexB-l. This is supposedy a moderated
>>> list. If it stays unmoderated, I won't be here long.
>>>
>>
>> Hate to say it, but the troll is starting to win.  People are starting to
>> lose patience with one another.  I think Steve Johnson has been on this
>> list since early days.
>>
>> Any word on Bill?  Is he ok?
>>
>> How long do we suffer the present situation until we reconstitute under
>> something like Google Groups, with Terry or another longtimer as mod? Or
>> should everyone who can't stand the situation add he who shall not be named
>> to a killfile?  If that's the best we can do for now, how to address Abd's
>> pressing concern about having his background and religion subject to
>> constant assault on this list?
>>
>> Eric
>>
>
>
>

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