Chem,
I think you should stick to chemistry. I don't want to be impolite but
which nonsense is this?
What is an entropic particle? LOL
Common.
Giovanni


On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 12:05 PM, ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com> wrote:

> According to my Research  & Theory:
>
> 1)  The Earth has an entropic dark matter core and creates its own iron
> and nickel.  Geologists are way over their head trying to explain it away
> as a bar magnet.
> 2)  The Earth's entropic core creates its own magnetic fields thru
> annihilation and charged orbital dark matter and other particles
> 3) The Earth's entropic core battery gets recharged as the sun spits
> entropic particles at us triggering our weather and seismic events out here
> on the crust.  Many of the large particles coalesce with the Earth's
> entropic core and also cool the Earth down
> 4)  We are just part of the colorful 5% crust.
> 5)  If you look at that Chandra X-Ray Matrix, the Earth is one of the
> intersecting/nodal points connected to the Sun which is a larger nodal
> point.
> 6)  The sun is about to get a millennial supply of orbital dark matter
> from those two great comets coming .  I just pray no nuclei break off and
> come our way.  Should be a good show either way.
>
> Stewart
> darkmattersalot.com
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Giovanni Santostasi <
> gsantost...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There are many problems with this theory.
>> One even if all these ideas would hold they could be applied only to
>> later stages of the universe life because iron and nickel are created by
>> massive stars and then released into space when they died as supernovae.
>>
>> Also consider that iron and heavy materials are very rare exactly because
>> only very massive stars can produce these materials.
>> Furthermore what you call natural magnetism is not something that occurs
>> so naturally for dust in space.
>> On earth natural magnetized material become magnetized because of the
>> Earth magnetic field. Look up how magnetic rocks get magnetized in wiki:
>>
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_magnetism#Thermoremanent_magnetization_.28TRM.29
>>
>> You need a huge dynamo magnet like the one at the core of the earth to
>> magnetize small things like rocks.
>>
>> The dynamo magnet is created by plasma that rotates at the center of the
>> Earth and creates by induction a magnetic field. The fact that there is
>> iron at the core helps to make the magnetic field stronger and helps to
>> carry the electrical current of the plasma but it is not the source per se
>> of the magnetic field of the earth. The sun doesn't have iron at the core
>> and it has a very strong magnetic field.
>>
>> The iron ended up at the core of the Earth because it is heavier
>> than silica and the other lighter elements that make the earth crust.
>>
>> Gravity is the dominant force at astronomical scales because it acts on
>> everything not special materials (like in the case for magnetism). Yes, it
>> is weak but when you are dealing with huge quantity of stuff that dominates
>> all the other forces in particular because electrostatic charges tend to
>> neutralize themselves coming in pairs and magnetic forces are produced by
>> moving charges and decay rapidly.
>>
>> And so on...
>> The theory makes not much sense in physical terms. Sorry.
>> Giovanni
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:55 AM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com>wrote:
>>
>>> The vortex-l group of individuals have a great deal of knowledge and
>>> open minds that I enjoy prodding on occasions.  This morning an unusual
>>> concept came into my mind which resulted in a hypothesis that I would like
>>> to put forth.
>>>
>>>  Suppose that the universe is organized by the influence of magnetic
>>> attractions between materials such as iron and nickel that can be
>>> permanently magnetized instead of gravity, at least in the formative years.
>>>  We all know that gravitation is by far the weakest force within the
>>> universe so why should we assume that such a modest effect would dominate?
>>>  My hypothesis is that this concept is entirely backwards and that the
>>> basic structures are formed by magnetic influences.  After the magnetic
>>> effects have completed their portion of the task the gravitational
>>> influence completes the puzzle.
>>>
>>>  Picture a region in open space that has a large collection of dust and
>>> gases.  It is certain that many specs of iron or nickel laden dust exist
>>> within this region and that many of these posses natural magnetic fields.
>>>  The attraction due to the magnetic field would dominate the net attraction
>>> between these particles by an extremely large margin.  As time progresses
>>> the magnetized  portions would strongly attract and then collect together
>>> into larger magnetic units.  This should occur far faster than
>>> gravitational collection due to the enormous difference in forces.
>>>
>>>  So, masses such as the earth's core come together quickly and consist
>>> of large concentrations of iron and nickel and any other magnetic
>>> materials.  The same would occur in the early formations that eventually
>>> become other planets and stars.  When the collection of magnetic materials
>>> is mostly completed, then it would be natural for the less magnetic matter
>>> to be gravitationally concentrated toward these large metallic centers.
>>>
>>>  In my model, it seems likely that pebbles held together magnetically
>>> should withstand much more pounding in collisions than those merely
>>> confined by gravity.  This difference in cohesive strength should further
>>> tend to result in large magnetic bundles at the expense of those formed of
>>> other materials.  With this in mind, it seems likely that all the planets
>>> that form in a region of space that contains the metals that can be
>>> magnetized will grow an iron like core first and quickly until these
>>> materials have been swept clean of the region.  This process is then
>>> followed by the gravitational attraction of the metal cores to the gasses
>>> and other materials.
>>>
>>>  The same type of influence should be exhibited throughout the universe
>>> at large.  Some of the formations have appearances that seem unusual if
>>> gravitation is the prime force at work.  Gravity does not generate shapes
>>> with spatial directivity to the degree that magnetic attraction does.
>>>  Gravity only pulls items towards each other in a straight line.  Magnetic
>>> materials generally have a dipole field or a complex field that is composed
>>> of the addition of many such dipoles.
>>>
>>>  If we consider that my hypothesis results in the collection of the
>>> magnetic materials rapidly and dominantly throughout space, then each of
>>> these would tend to influence others of their kind in the near vicinity.
>>>  This should dominate the early formation of matter that eventually leads
>>> to galaxies, etc.  I suppose that it is a good thing that the magnetic
>>> fields of iron masses falls off rapidly with distance due to the dipole
>>> nature or the universe might be dominated by truly enormous collections of
>>> magnetic core objects.  The shorter range of these dipoles compared to the
>>> monopole of gravity allow what we observe today.
>>>
>>>  Is it possible that the enormous black holes at the centers of
>>> galaxies began in this magnetic manner?  It would not be difficult to
>>> imagine that most of the iron and other magnetic materials would be swept
>>> together first and fast if present within a nearly created dust cloud.
>>>  Once a core has been established, it should easily dominate the remainder
>>> of the cloud and attract the gasses by its quickly formed gravitational
>>> field that reaches far into space.
>>>
>>>  Another idea to consider is that the strong magnetic field at the core
>>> of the black hole reaches out far enough to impart directivity to the
>>> motion of materials moving in the direction towards its center.  Any
>>> smaller magnetic masses would be pushed or pulled by the mother field of
>>> the hole into directions that tend to follow its field pattern.  The
>>> smaller magnetic components would then impart some of this force upon the
>>> gases and other materials by direct coupling among them.  As the total
>>> combination of materials approach the hole, the kinetic energy imparted
>>> upon the mass send it past the north or south polar region into orbit.  It
>>> is premature to attempt to define the structure of a black hole under the
>>> influence of magnetic effects until a more complete picture emerges.
>>>
>>>  I can visualize the wild and amazing behavior that would be imparted
>>> upon a gas with magnetic particles immersed within as it approaches a large
>>> magnetic black hole.  Once the gas is turned into a plasma by the heat and
>>> forces applied, it would possess a tremendous electric current induced
>>> within by the motion through the hole's magnetic field.  Great forces could
>>> occur that may result in the beams that are seen emitted by the galactic
>>> center black holes.  Perhaps someone could allow a super computer the
>>> chance to predict this behavior.
>>>
>>>  The hypothesis is supported by the known core of the earth.  this is
>>> known to be composed of iron and nickel.
>>>
>>>  Meteorites are composed of various materials.  The metallic ones have
>>> a large concentrations of magnetic matter within that may have collected
>>> together rapidly at the formation of the parent body.
>>>
>>>  The shape of the clouds associated with the enormous explosions of
>>> super nova tend to be non symmetrical on many occasions with patterns
>>> associated with dipole or quadrapole fields.
>>>
>>>  Do other vortex members see support of reasons to believe that this
>>> hypothesis is not workable?  I am seeking inputs from our esteemed members
>>> that might help to put this puzzle together.
>>>
>>>  Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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