I have not claimed to be an expert in climate change and merely have an 
interest.   I also have an interest in the well being of the other people on 
the earth that we share.  You can be assured that I would be very vocal about 
climate change affecting us if I felt that it was a serious risk to mankind and 
the remainder of the environment and that now was the only time to react.  So 
far I have only heard strong sounds emitted by the groups seeking immediate 
action who conveniently leave out information that runs counter to their 
beliefs.  This is unbalanced and dangerous for those that will be left out of 
progress due to wasted actions.


It is obvious that every time a storm hits, or a dry spell occurs, etc. that it 
becomes blamed upon climate change.  This is sheer nonsense and even the 
climatologists try to distance their predictions to some degree from immediate 
weather effects.


Are you convinced that there are not going to be many positive effects due to 
future climate variations, whether caused by man or not?  Would you have the 
same beliefs if you were living toward the end of the last ice age?  The fear 
of change is an easy one to acquire, but should not dominate ones thinking.  I 
make an attempt to not panic in this case and have faith that we will find a 
way to solve any major problems which occur and take advantage of the good 
things that happen.


Have you given the Danish scientist Henrick Svensmark's theory about cosmic 
rays being a major climate driver equal time?  There is remarkable correlation 
between what he has theorized and the climate of the earlier Earth.  Anyone who 
would strongly jump at the suggestion that the ocean levels will rise 9 meters 
due to a theory of a couple of guys should be willing to analyze what might be 
a better explanation.


My personal opinion is that now is the time to perform the needed research and 
figure out what really is happening.  The science is not settled as some would 
like us to believe and the cost of immediate action is much too great unless a 
truly catastrophic future is looming.  I detect a mixed bag of future effects 
that we have a significant amount of time to optimize.  Furthermore,  as time 
progresses our sciences and technology will improve and any mitigation will 
become that much easier to achieve.  All of us need to have a little more faith 
in future generations.


Jed, it makes little difference whether or not you believe me.  We each have 
our opinions that differ.  I have given you a name to follow up upon of a 
scientist that does have hand's on experience that I lack and who is well 
respected.  You can choose not to give consideration to the other side of this 
discussion, but I know that you would be ahead to open your mind just a tiny 
bit.


Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Wed, Jan 30, 2013 2:16 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:NHK: ocean levels may rise 9 m by 2100


David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote:

 

So, when will we begin to see these effects to such a degree that it will 
become obvious?



Most experts say the changes are obvious now. And irrefutable. Perhaps you 
disagree. I tend to believe experts who have done hands-on research, based on 
my experience with cold fusion. Let me put it this way: If you have published a 
paper on this subject I will take your views a lot more seriously.


- Jed



 

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