On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> I'm mentioning this bit of cosmology as "on topic" simply because it shows
> how tenuous is "expert consensus" on the most important things in our
> Universe. We as an advanced society are far from having a complete knowledge
> of physics, contrary to belief in the Ivory Towers of academia.
>
> This star's age is a real embarrassment for any putative Standard Model of
> Cosmology :-) and with implications for the Standard Model for Physics.
> Called the Methuselah star, aka HD 140283 - this object is actually in our
> galaxy, which makes it even more problematic since it close to home.
>
> Astronomers refined the star's age down to about 14.5 billion years (which
> is still older than the universe), from the original data showing 16 billion
> years old. In either event it is way older then the Milky Way - yet there it
> is - not too far away cosmologically speaking.
>

Indeed, If it is really that old it should be billions of light years
away from our own galaxy according
to standard cosmology.

> The revision downward was a cop-out since the original estimate is based on
> techniques used for everything else. In fact, the star could be at least two
> billion years older than the Universe as a whole if most of our prior
> assumptions are correct.
>
> http://www.space.com/20114-oldest-star-hubble-telescope-images.html
>
> Now ... here is the interesting part if the age measurement techniques were
> to be correct.
>
> Say our Universe expands and collapses - on long very cycles.
>
> Can a "seed star" born at the end of the previous cycle, somehow survive the
> collapse and carry forward anything relevant (i.e. 'information') between
> cycles?
>
> This has definite implications going all the way to theology, no?


A cyclic universe with no ulitmate beginning is a challenge for theology.

Harry

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