From: David Roberson 
                
                Jones, do you assume that the RPF is not an elastic
collision because the strong force dominates?

Yes. The strong force is well-named… by far the strongest force in nature.

                It is not too difficult to  imagine that the two protons are
bound together by the strong force for a short period of time as the new
nucleus seeks a way to emit the excitation energy that it contains. 

This energy transfer between two protons is not always “emitted” per se –
but it can be coupled to other particles as spin waves. The quanta are
related to bosons from the quark mass and governed by QCD. These are a
Goldstone bosons (pseudo or Nambu Goldstone bosons) which  correspond to the
spontaneously broken internal symmetry generators, following a strong force
reaction; and are characterized by the quantum numbers of these bosons. The
magnon is the prime example of the emitted energy – but it is a “spin wave”
pseudo particle, and not a photon.
                
                We know of the beta plus decay leading to deuterium
production, but this is rare.   

Extraordinarily rare. In LENR, the experimenter would not see a single
deuteron in a thousand years.

                It is not clear why the excited pair of protons is not
capable of emitting a gamma to lower their energy state, 

QCD color charge is not high energy. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_charge

                but if this happens the next item on the agenda would be to
emit a positron and neutrino as this unstable nucleus changes to D which
always would occur given time.

There is simply not enough energy to play with to even suggest substantial
deuterium. Essentially, D never happens (unless that is one of your
hypothetical LENR “miracles”).

The excess (or deficit) energy per proton over the average mass is a
fraction of the maximum of 70 parts per million (of the total mass-energy of
the proton) and only the Boltzmann tail of that distribution is “useable”
maybe 4-5%. It can show up as anomalous gain or as anomalous loss (internal
heat sink). As gain, it can materialize as “thermal energy” due to magnetic
induction (in ferromagnetic metals like nickel) since the magnon spin wave
is the prime example of bosonic mass/energy transfer. As loss it can
materialize as a magneto-caloric effect.
                
                -----Original Message-----
                This paper confirms more than ever that D+D fusion is a
fundamentally
                different phenomenon than proton-only reactions (DGT, Rossi,
Mills etc),
                which leave no ash and emit no significant gamma radiation.
To understand
                LENR, we need two completely different theories. Ockham be
damned.

                There is an excellent model for proton-only reactions which
leave no ash -
                P+P reversible fusion (RPF) and the model is our Sun. Almost
all solar
                fusion is P+P RPF. Wiki has an entry, so this is (almost)
mainstream physics
                so far.

                It is also standard physics that reversible fusion is real
fusion (not an
                elastic collision) and that it involves quantum color
changes in the 6
                quarks involved and that there is no net gain on our sun.

                However, the two protons coming into RPF are NOT the same
two coming out,
                and there will always be slight mass changes between the two
fusing protons
                - which tend to be net neutral (no gain) and tend to
equalize proton mass to
                within a within very tight range.

                The only thing missing from the solar model – for us to
learn something WRT
                nickel-hydrogen reactions on earth, is to understand how one
can engineer a
                slight bit of asymmetry into the RPF reaction, in order to
provide net gain
                of energy.

                This is why Rossi’s recent announcement was slightly
intriguing to me,
                despite his theatrical antics and penchant for half-truths. 

                In analyzing how one could use RPF for net gain, the best
solution which I
                could come up with, on paper, is to have two adjoining
reactors, one of
                which gives anomalous heat and the other anomalous cooling.
In order to have
                net gain, the twin reactions would require mass to be
converted to energy on
                the hot side, and the opposite on the cold-side. But one
would likely need
                to convert a different kind of energy than electric input,
to pump up
                depleted mass (on the cold-side). 

                Thus protons can thus be seen as energy transfer carriers
using slight mass
                enhancement via magnons. This “pumping up” or cold-side
could be via
                accelerated nuclear decay energy, for instance. Potassium-40
stands out as
                the likely source but it could be another isotope or
several.

                However, as we know in Rossi’s case – he claims that both
devices are
                gainful, but one is hotter than the other – which may NOT be
the same thing
                as RPF … unless the colder side is merely colder than the
power input used
                to accelerate decay, but still slightly warm - and is not
necessarily
                gainful. However, there can be net gain in the combined
units, since protons
                pick up slight mass on the cold side and deposit it on the
hot side.

                As for now,  I would like to think the theory is more or
less correct, and
                Rossi is more or less exaggerating on this claims. Time will
tell.


                                From: Kevin O'Malley 
                                
                                Nuclear processes in solids: basic 2nd-order
processes
                <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2994525/posts> 
                                Institute of Physics, Budafoki ´ut 8. F.,
H-1521 Budapest,
                Hungary ^
        
<http://www.freerepublic.com/%5Ehttp://arxiv.org/pdf/1303.1078v1.pdf>  |
                P´eter K´alm´an&#8727; and Tam´as Keszthelyi 
                                 http://arxiv.org/pdf/1303.1078v1.pdf
                                
                                Abstract
                                
                                Nuclear processes in solid environment are
investigated. It
                is shown that if a slow, quasi-free
                                heavy particle of positive charge interacts
with a ”free”
                electron of a metallic host, it can obtain
                                such a great magnitude of momentum in its
intermediate state
                that the probability of its nuclear
                                reaction with another positively charged,
slow, heavy
                particle can significantly increase. It is also
                                shown that if a quasi-free heavy particle of
positive charge
                of intermediately low energy interacts
                                with a heavy particle of positive charge of
the solid host,
                it can obtain much greater momentum
                                relative to the former case in the
intermediate state and
                consequently, the probability of a nuclear
                                reaction with a positively charged, heavy
particle can even
                more increase. This mechanism opens
                                the door to a great variety of nuclear
processes which up
                till know are thought to have negligible
                                rate at low energies. Low energy nuclear
reactions allowed
                by the Coulomb assistance of heavy
                                charged particles is partly overviewed.
Nuclear pd and dd
                reactions are investigated numerically.
                                It was found that the leading channel in all
the discussed
                charged particle assisted dd reactions is
                                the electron assisted d + d → 4He process.
                        
        
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                --------------------------------------- 
                                
                                VI. SUMMARY
                                It is found that, contrary to the commonly
accepted opinion,
                in a solid metal surrounding
                                nuclear reactions can happen between heavy,
charged
                particles of like (positive) charge of
                                low initial energy. It is recognized, that
one of the
                participant particles of a nuclear reaction
                                
                                of low initial energy may pick up great
momentum in a
                Coulomb scattering process on a
                                free, third particle of the surroundings.
The virtually
                acquired great momentum, that is
                                determined by the energy of the reaction,
can help to
                overcome the hindering Coulomb
                                barrier and can highly increase the rate of
the nuclear
                reaction even in cases when the rate
                                would be otherwise negligible. It is found
that the electron
                assisted d + d → 4He process
                                has the leading rate. In the reactions
discussed energetic
                charged particles are created, that
                                can become (directly or after Coulomb
collisions) the source
                of heavy charged particles of
                                intermediately low (of about a few keV )
energy. These heavy
                particles can assist nuclear
                                reactions too. It is worth mentioning that
the shielding of
                the Coulomb potential has no
                                effect on the mechanisms discussed.
                                Our thoughts were motivated by our former
theoretical
                findings [9] according to which
                                the leading channel of the p + d → 3He
reaction in solid
                environment is the so called solid
                                state internal conversion process, an
adapted version of
                ordinary internal conversion process
                                [10]. In the process formerly discussed [9]
if the reaction
                takes place in solid material, in
                                which instead of the emission of a photon,
the nuclear
                energy is taken away by an electron
                                of the environment (the metal), the Coulomb
interaction
                induces a p + d → 3He nuclear
                                transition. The processes discussed here can
be considered
                as an alternative version of the
                                solid state internal conversion process
since it is thought
                that one party of the initial particles
                                of the nuclear process takes part in Coulomb
interaction
                with a charged particle of the solid
                                material (e.g. of a metal).
                                There may be many fields of physics where
the traces of the
                proposed mechanism may have
                                been previously appeared. It is not the aim
of this work to
                give a systematic overview these
                                fields. We only mention here two of them
that are thought to
                be partly related or explained
                                by the processes proposed. The first is the
so called
                anomalous screening effect observed in
                                low energy accelerator physics investigating
astrophysical
                factors of nuclear reactions of low
                                atomic numbers [11]. The other one is the
family of low
                energy nuclear fusion processes.
                                The physical background, discussed in the
Introduction and
                in the first part of Section V.,
                                was questioned by the two decade old
announcement [12] on
                excess heat generation due to
                                nuclear fusion reaction of deuterons at
deuterized Pd
                cathodes during electrolysis at near
                                room temperature. The paper [12] initiated
continuous
                experimental work whose results
                                were summarized recently [13]. The
mechanisms discussed here
                can explain some of the
                                main problems raised in [13]. (a) The
mechanisms proposed
                here make low energy fusion
                                
                                reactions and nuclear transmutations
possible. (b) The
                processes discussed explain the lack
                                of the normally expected reaction products. 
                                
                                On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Kevin
O'Malley
                <kevmol...@gmail.com> wrote:
                                
                                I remember there being a paper about
something like alpha
                bombardment of a metal matrix generating a million times
more fusion events
                than the same level of plasma.  But I can't find it.  
                                 
                                
                                 
                                On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 8:20 PM, David
Roberson
                <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote:
                                  
                                
                                So, I have a question that seeks an answer.
Is anyone aware
                of proof that hot fusion types of reactions have been
observed within the
                confines of a metal matrix that is not subject to very
massive energy
                inputs?   
                                 
                                  
                                

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