Sidenote:
I'm reminded of one of the great one-liners (and I believe it was uttered
by someone on this list if I;m not mistaken:

"The difference between connecting the dots and conflation  is spin"


On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Joshua Cude <joshua.c...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Rothwell wrote: "Cude and others conflate many different assertions and
> issues. They stir everything into one pot. You have to learn to
> compartmentalize with cold fusion, or with any new phenomenon or poorly
> understood subject. "
>
>
> That's nonsense. It's the believers who are forever using tritium and
> neutrons at ridiculously low levels to prove P&F were right. The skeptics
> are skeptical of both, but are fully aware that even if low level neutrons
> a la SE Jones were valid, it wouldn't prove P&F right. That's why Jones got
> into nature and P&F didn't. Turned out, Jones retracted, until he made
> claims again. But they're marginal too.
>
>
>
> > In this case, the tritium findings by Storms and soon after at TAMU and
> NCFI proved beyond doubt that cold fusion is a real, nuclear phenomenon.
> After they published that 1990 it was case closed. Every scientist on earth
> should have believed it.
>
>
> Unfortunately computer programmers don't get to tell every scientist on
> earth how to make scientific judgements. Morrison followed the field in
> detail until 2001, and he had the background and experience to make
> credible judgements and he was skeptical. So did Huizenga. And I'd put more
> credence in the Gell-Manns who considerd it briefly than the Rothwells or
> Storms who devoted their lives to it, but can't tell a likely charlatan
> (Rossi) from a scientist or inventor.
>
>
> And if the tritium was so conclusive, why were the results so variable,
> and given the variability, why has tritium research stopped before anyone
> settled anything about it? That's not the behavior of scientists. It's the
> behavior of pathological scientists.
>
>
> > The excess heat results proved that it is not a chemical effect, in the
> normal sense. Perhaps it is a Mills effect. Again, there is so much
> evidence for this, at such high s/n ratios, it is irrefutable.
>
>
> > The helium results support the hypothesis that this is some sort of
> deuterium fusion, at least with Pd-D. There is no doubt about the helium,
> but no one has searched for helium or deuterium from Ni-H cells.
>
>
> > All the other claims are fuzzy, in my opinion. There is not as much
> evidence for them.
>
>
> All the results are fuzzy, and the levels are determined by the quality of
> the experiment. Heat levels comparable to inputs, or chemical background,
> or typical artifacts. Helium levels comparable to atmospheric background.
> Neutrons and tritium, for which instruments are far more sensitive, appear
> at guess what, far lower levels.
>
>
> > The point is, DO NOT CONFUSE THESE QUESTIONS. Do not conflate them!
>
>
> Gee. Someone learned a new word, and is gonna get all the mileage he can
> from it.
>
>
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