Jones, I only read your top citation so far but it does indicate the emissions recorded may have been due to ZPE [snip] We analyzed the emission from different gases and cavities to determine its origin. None of the conventional thermodynamic models we applied to our data fully explain it, leaving open the possibility that it is due to Casimir-cavity-induced emission from ZP fields.[/snip] Even this is surprising if you consider the submicron pores mentioned are probably the 100 nm scale from their original patent and stacked layer prototype [alternating conductive/insulating layers with tunnels drilled thru the stack]... too large for any vigorous Casimir force..their original intent was to pursue a Lamb Pinch effect to collect far less energy but cycled rapidly via gas flow through numerous layers to accumulate the effect. I don't believe their sub micron pore size is anywhere near Rayney nickel or Rossi's tubules - granted the tubule size is also near micron scale but I believe the shape and protrusions of a tubule can create spacing voids between tubules much smaller than the tubule when they clump together to form a bulk powder. There also remains the open question with tubules that the secret sauce is backfilling the geometry between tubules making them a super catalyst. Best Regards Fran
-----Original Message----- From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 5:32 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Nickel Aluminum (NiAl) http://ecee.colorado.edu/~moddel/QEL/Papers/DmitriyevaModdel12.pdf Garret Moddel at Colorado has a patent application and has been looking for Casimir/ZPE heating for several years in nanocavities. Success has been marginal at best. http://www.google.com/patents/WO2008039176A3?cl=en&dq=Garret+Moddel&hl=en&sa =X&ei=3E6VUajuMoKxiwKzhoGQAw&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAQ -----Original Message----- From: Andy Findlay Yes, Terry, but note I was talking about anomalous heat. Terry Blanton wrote: >> I wonder if anyone has looked for anomalous heat in this process. Whether they look or not, they often find heat considering that the material is flammable.