The Spice file would suffice.

What do I plan to do with the information?  I don't know.  Isn't it
standard practice to share one's model when speaking of it in a collegial
manner?  Do you have a proprietary interest in it?


On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 7:14 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote:

> Not without a lot of serious thinking.  The model is in the form of a
> spice file with non linear elements.  Perhaps this can be done, but I have
> not attempted it so far.
>
> Could you explain what you plan to do with that information if it can be
> obtained?
>
> Dave
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com>
> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> Sent: Sun, May 26, 2013 8:07 pm
> Subject: Re: [Vo]: Constant temperature Operation of ECAT?
>
>  Could you post the differential equations of the control system?
>
>
> On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:44 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com>wrote:
>
>> My model demonstrates that constant temperature operation of the ECAT is
>> not going to work under normal conditions.  The relatively high value of
>> COP when temperature control is used depends upon operation in a positive
>> feedback region.  This can be thought of as related to the question that
>> always arises about why the device does not supply its own drive and
>> therefore run continuously in SSM.
>>
>> Once the loop gain becomes greater than 1, the device will tend to move
>> in the direction that it is currently heading.  This allows it to heat up
>> to a relatively larger temperature than that due to the drive alone.  When
>> rising in temperature, the device begins to put out additional heat, more
>> with time.  The trick is to turn the process around at a good point before
>> it goes too far.  The best turn around temperature is well defined and
>> shows up as a tendency for the device to continue putting out power at a
>> constant rate with time.  Unfortunately, this exact point would be
>> impossible to achieve while maintaining control.  It is a balance between
>> how long you want the temperature to remain nearly constant and the risk of
>> loosing control.
>>
>> Rossi chose a relatively safe turn around temperature for the last test
>> which caused the COP to drop below his desired value of 6.  I suspect he
>> chose this because a COP of 3 well demonstrates that the process is real
>> and also has enough margin to keep the device safe from melt down.  I think
>> I would have done the same under the same constraints.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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