I found a great paper that might lay all this stuff out. I have not read it yet but it looks real good after doing a quick scan.
http://users.physik.fu-berlin.de/~pelster/Theses/nietner.pdf Quantum Phase Transition of Light in the Jaynes-Cummings Lattice On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: > The atoms in a Bose-Einstein condensate follow the Jaynes-Cummings model. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaynes%E2%80%93Cummings_model > > Jaynes–Cummings model > > > More to the point, when a Ni/H system get going after state up, the > systems becomes totally entangled. > > > This type of system is described by the Jaynes–Cummings–Hubbard model > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaynes%E2%80%93Cummings%E2%80%93Hubbard_model > > Drawing a connection between the Ni/H reactor and a Bose-Einstein > condensate as follows: > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20208523 > > In spite of their different natures, light and matter can be unified under > the strong-coupling regime, yielding superpositions of the two, referred to > as dressed states or polaritons. After initially being demonstrated in bulk > semiconductors and atomic systems, strong-coupling phenomena have been > recently realized in solid-state optical microcavities. Strong coupling is > an essential ingredient in the physics spanning from many-body quantum > coherence phenomena, such as Bose-Einstein condensation and superfluidity, > to cavity quantum electrodynamics. Within cavity quantum electrodynamics, > the Jaynes-Cummings model describes the interaction of a single fermionic > two-level system with a single bosonic photon mode. For a photon number > larger than one, known as quantum strong coupling, a significant > anharmonicity is predicted for the ladder-like spectrum of dressed states. > For optical transitions in semiconductor nanostructures, first signatures > of the quantum strong coupling were recently reported. Here we use advanced > coherent nonlinear spectroscopy to explore a strongly coupled > exciton-cavity system. We measure and simulate its four-wave mixing > response, granting direct access to the coherent dynamics of the first and > second rungs of the Jaynes-Cummings ladder. The agreement of the rich > experimental evidence with the predictions of the Jaynes-Cummings model is > proof of the quantum strong-coupling regime in the investigated solid-state > system. > > > > This says to me that the Ni/H system obeys the same rules as the BEC. > > I showed you that in such a Jaynes-Cummings system, the atoms share the > frequency of a quantum as defined by a coupling constant. > > This how the FREQUENT of a gamma ray quantum is shared(chopped up) between > all the ensemble members of the NI/H system. > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote: > >> Axil, I have no idea what your comment means in the context of the >> subject we are discussing here. Please explain. >> >> Ed Storms >> >> On Jun 3, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Axil Axil wrote: >> >> http://arxiv.org/pdf/1202.4827v1.pdf >> >> *Two coupled Jaynes-Cummings cells* >> ** >> We develop a theoretical framework to evaluate the energy spectrum, >> stationary states, and dielectric susceptibility of two Jaynes-Cummings >> systems coupled together by the overlap of their respective longitudinal >> field modes, and *we solve and characterize the combined system for the >> case that the two atoms and two cavities share a single quantum of energy. >> * >> >> >> Here is how two entangled particles share a single quantum of energy >> >> You will notice that the each particle gets a part of the FREQUENCY of >> the quantum based on the coupling constant. >> >> >> See figures 3 and 4. >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote: >> >>> Axil, you show that you have no understanding of the second law. The >>> laws of thermodynamics simply define how energy must flow in a system and >>> how the system must behave as a result of the energy. The laws do not >>> address the source. In the case of Rossi, he has an obvious source that >>> cannot be identified. This source has no relationship to the laws of >>> thermodynamic. Nevertheless, the energy that results from this source, >>> regardless of how it is created, MUST follow the laws of thermodynamics. >>> NO VIOLATION EXISTS. >>> >>> Ed Storms >>> >>> On Jun 3, 2013, at 10:57 AM, Axil Axil wrote: >>> >>> From the get go, when you come to think in more simple terms, isn’t >>> seeing a glowing pipe pumping out six time more energy than is going in a >>> de facto violation of the 2nd law of thermodynamics? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I was going to write this post, but you beat me to it. Your post is >>>> more elegant and persuasive than mine would have been. >>>> >>>> This common flaw in the reason and logic that most people use, this 2nd >>>> law of thermodynamics hangup, is going to make the experimental revelation >>>> showing BEC activity in LENR too hard for people to take. They just won’t >>>> believe their lying eyes. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ***Then as long as those theories can explain this experimental >>>>>>> result, everything is in good shape. Why would you say "That's not >>>>>>> good"? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is an experimental finding, not a theory. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It is not good because the laws of thermodynamics are probably right >>>>>> and therefore this experimental result is probably wrong. >>>>>> >>>>> ***Sounds a lot like the entire field of LENR. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Until it is widely replicated most people will assume it is wrong. >>>>>> >>>>> ***Let me see -- LENR, 14,700 replications. Most people still assume >>>>> it's wrong. There is the distinct possibility that this BEC experiment >>>>> could be widely replicated and most people will assume it is wrong. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> The problem there is that people seldom try to replicate results >>>>>> which appear to be wrong on the face of it. >>>>>> >>>>> ***What we have here is an experimental piece of the puzzle that shows >>>>> BECs absorb energy and could account for the 2nd miracle of missing gammas >>>>> in LENR. Y E Kim's theory has been given yet another leg up. First, it >>>>> was high temperature BECs forming. Second, it is that BECs absorb energy. >>>>> BECs do not "disobey" the 2nd law of thermodynamics any more than plasmas >>>>> do. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> - Jed >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >