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http://it.ibtimes.com/articles/52396/20130708/fusione-fredda-gravi-critiche-test-indipendenti-intervista-bo-hoistad.htm


There is no peace for Andrea Rossi and his E-Cat. The publication of the
now famous independent third-party test on the E-Cat high temperature
seemed to represent a turning point in the story starring the Italian
engineer and his creature, which promises to revolutionize the world of
energy.

But even the new test came in the middle of strong controversy, carried out
by an article made by Professors Goran Ericsson and Stephan Pomp, nuclear
physicists at the University of Uppsala, which is highly critical of the
test and openly questioned the results.

The criticism of Ericsson and Pomp -published on arxiv.org, the platform of
Cornell University on which also the E-Cat tests were made public, in their
report Ericsson Pomp and question the real independence of the testers
noting that some of them had already participated in previous
demonstrations organized by engineer Rossi. It ss also criticized their own
qualifications to perform these tests because they do not have adequate
preparation for a “black box” test.

Ericsson and Pomp wonder how the testers could be assured that inside the
reactor there is nickel and hydrogen if they have not been able to open.

Furthermore, the same reference to “trade secrets” about the “fuel” of the
reactor brings a veil of shadow over the real operation of the reactor
itself overshadowing the possibility that it could be using a second source
of energy.

This accusation stems from the fact that Ericsson and Pomp do not agree on
the choice to perform the tests in the laboratories of Leonardo Corporation
made available by engineer Rossi. The two scientists also point out that in
both tests the reactors were put into operation by personnel authorized by
engineer Rossi and not by the testers themselves.

Regarding the measurements, according to Ericsson and Pomp, the December
test must be invalidated because no data have been reported on emissivity.
For the test in March, the two critics claim to have been able, through the
COSMOL (a simulation tool used in physics) to replicate the same results
without the involvement of any abnormal heat. The two critics consider that
there is no data were provided on the unloaded dummy (“dummy”).

The conclusions of the report of Ericsson and Pomp were harsh: they accuse
their colleagues to have made to prevail their hopes above the scientific
rigor and, based on all the observations prior reported, express the
conviction that no truly independent test was performed on the E -Cat.
Ericcson and Pomp therefore conclude that neither the test published on
Arxiv or elsewhere has never proven that there’s an “abnormal production of
energy.”

The answer of Professor Bo Höistad – This is clearly a very harsh report in
which, not only doubt is cast on the operation of the E-Cat, but also on
the reliability of the same scientists who have carried out two tests in
December 2012 and March 2013 so as to explicitly accuse them of having
followed a typical method of “pseudo-science”, that is to skip to
extraordinary conclusions without first having sought explanations in
traditional physics.

We therefore decided to contact Professor Bo Höistad, a nuclear physicist
and professor at the University of Uppsala and one of the authors of the
famous independent test, to allow him to replicate and to explain its
position on the target of criticism by Ericsson and Pomp.

IBTimes: Dear Professor Höistad, Ericsson and Pomp bring into question the
independence of the testers, especially Professor Levi and Petterson. How
do you respond to this charge?

Bo Höistad: First, let me point out that the article of Pomp and Ericsson
is written with a very negative provision towards Rossi and tried to find
all the possible arguments to support their idea that Rossi is cheating. As
a result they are very critical about our tentatively positive results.
Their paper, instead of directly discuss our findings in a scientific
manner, focuses on a number circumstantial issues that have no relevance to
the primary outcome i.e. if our results are correct within the errors
estimated. Furthermore they attribute to us different statements that are
false. Also there are many deliberate omissions, unwarranted opinions and
false claims. Finally, their article is written in a polemical style tended
to insult and ridicule rather than bring clarity to a complex scientific
controversy.

On the question of independence, it is an obvious contradiction that the
result of our measurements may be rejected only because one of our authors
(Levi) and Rossi know each other. Our result should be judged on scientific
grounds and not on the basis of insignificant relationships.

IBTimes: In the report of Ericsson and Pomp it is also said that neither
you nor the other authors of the study have the appropriate skills to carry
out a test “black-box”. Is that so?

Bo Höistad: As researchers in experimental physics, chemistry and radiology
with a long experience in advanced techniques of high precision our
expertise is evident. It should be noted that both Ericsson and Pomp are
nuclear physicists, while our group includes a much broader field of
science.

IBTimes: We come to “technical” criticisms, the fact that the tests were
carried out in the laboratories of Leonardo Corporation puts into question
in any way the results published by you and your team?

Bo Höistad: We used our experimental tools. Rossi has only provided his
E-Cat reactor with its electrical box. It also allowed us to use his
laboratory that we have carefully inspected before testing. Rossi was not
involved in the test in any way. One of his technicians helped us to
operate the E-Cat, but then he did not take part in any way to the
measurements.

IBTimes: I report some questions that are addressed in the study. How do
you know that inside the reactor there are nickel and hydrogen since you
could not open it? Why was the reactor put into operation by technicians
assigned by Rossi?

Bo Höistad: We were there when Rossi emptied the reactor fuel, although we
have not seen him doing it. We have also implemented a fuel analysis after
the operation of the reactor. But strictly speaking we can not be 100% sure
that the fuel that we have analyzed is the same that was present in the
reactor. However, this has no relevance to the main result of the
measurement that it has produced a large excess heat compared to the
combustion chemistry of ANY substance.

IBTimes: What can you tell us about the “fuel” and “trade secrets” that
surround him? Is it really possible – as suggested in the study by Ericsson
and Pomp – that a second source of energy has been used ?

Bo Höistad: If you are referring to some form of hidden energy to cheat, we
have made every effort to unmask an trick of this kind.

At this point of our investigation it does not make sense to make
assumptions about the nature of the excess heat produced by the reactor
fuel. In particular, any hypothesis on the prevalence of a nuclear reaction
is understandable only if a nuclear transition can be localized, and so far
it has not been so.

Note that we communicated it in the “Indication of anomalous heat energy
production in a reactor device containing hydrogen loaded nickel powder”,
and our results should certainly be repeated by more comprehensive studies.
Our current results are interesting enough to continue these studies.
Presumably there is still a long way to go before we can confirm or deny
the operation of the E-Cat reactor (I made this observation to the Swedish
newspaper Ny Tekink, New Technology, and Ericsson and Pomp know).

IBTimes: How do you respond to criticism on the measurements for both the
December test for the March?

Bo Höistad: Their conjectures about the difference in the excess heat
produced between the test in December and March are incorrect. Just look at
our paper.

IBTimes: Finally Ericsson and Pomp argue that in the tests you made you
find a typical attitude of pseudo-science, which is moving quickly to
extraordinary conclusions rather than trying to find explanations in the
physical standard. It is a very heavy criticism: How do you respond?

Bo Höistad: It is very unfortunate that Ericsson Pomp and resort to wicked
and mischievous comments. Accusing colleagues with a long and distinguished
series of hundreds of scientific articles published in the most important
international journals in physics to be sold to pseudo-science is simply a
severe insult and beyond any reasonable level of a decent academic
behavior. Frankly speaking I am ashamed of having colleagues at the
University of Uppsala that don’t refrain from personal attacks of such a
low level.

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