Yeah? Did you discuss dielectric crystals as a catalyst? Did you discuss them as speculation or as in the context of experiments you had actually performed and results you had achieved?
It's possible that Pekka is a proxy for Defkalion or Rossi. They certainly wouldn't be the first company to try something like that. On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: > We here at vortex have publically disclosed and discussed many of these > concepts (i.e. Rydberg matter, inverted Rydberg matter and clustering) as > applied to LENR that have been reveled in this patent back as early as 2010 > and 2011. To my knowledge we were the first do so. > > Does that effect prior art as pursuant to the newly defined US patent law? > > > On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Chuck Sites <[email protected]> wrote: > >> First a warning, , If your trying to build an cold fusion device for >> profit via patents you may want to skip this article. Otherwise you will >> have first hand knowledge of prior art. >> >> If you curious like me and just want to understand how things work, then >> this is probably an interesting read. >> >> I stumbled on this link from some chain of discussion that was occurring >> when the Defkalion demonstration was running, and someone mentioned that >> there was a patent already on the device. This is a international patent >> issued by WIPO to Pekka Soininen for a device described as a >> "THERMAL-ENERGY PRODUCING SYSTEM AND METHOD". It looks exactly like the >> Defkalion reactor, down to the spark plugs, the metal hydrides and the >> Rydberg atoms. >> >> International Publication Number WO 2013/076378 A2. >> >> http://www.roxit.ax/FinsktLENRpatent.pdf >> >> I would think that if Rosi and Defkalion are not currently holding >> patents on their technology, this could be very disruptive towards their >> business plans. Also, does any know who Pekka Soininen is. He seems to be >> a new name in the LENR field (at least to me). >> >> Best regards >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
