Mark, you are in good company..you just described the Haisch Modell prototype but even they require what they describe as a lamb pinch to make the transition asymmetrical into the cavity vs out of the cavity. The papers you cited describe orbitals proportional to vacuum density, if the density drops so does the orbital, when the density returns to normal so will the orbital, there is no energy differential between the orbital and the vacuum density unless you do something to the atom to make it oppose the change in pressure.. a bond, a lamb pinch, or Jones irh acting as a heavy electron will oppose random gas motion and IMHO discount the amount of thermal energy required to reverse a chemical reaction. I am convinced you need binary states. Atomic to transition to whatever the local geometry dictates and then back to one of these other hypothetical states that remains stable until it moves to yet another location with enough difference in vacuum pressure to force the hypothetical state back to the atomic state…. In an endless cycle for as long as the gas migrates between different Casimir geometries.. I don’t really understand the Lamb pinch concept but it may meet your description since I think the atom remains monatomic .. I think it is based on confinement and Hall effects.
Fran From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 3:37 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Irh energy upon exiting caviy Fran: I’ve always had a prob with the whole time-dilation/relativistic effects thing… my gut tells me that this is what might be ‘perceived’ by us and our instruments, and the physics community had to ‘fit’ data to a theoretical framework; another contributing factor is that the ZPField was not a consideration as the Relativity theory was growing up… There are quite a number of papers building on the ZPF/quantum vacuum and having some success in explaining relativistic observations in a more classical framework. Thus, I think my original suggestion is still a decent physical model; that the ground-state of an atom in a Casimir cavity will spontaneously drop to a ‘sub-ground-state’ energy level when it enters the cavity; the narrower the cavity, and the electron will settle into a sub-sub-sub-ground state. Where does that energy go??? Only two places possible; either into the ZPF, or if conditions are right, one might get it to transfer to the walls of the cavity??? In the latter case, there is the possibility of making use of that energy… Upon exiting the cavity, it will likely ‘absorb’ E from the now normal ZPF background… So there’s your energy conversion device: flowing hydrogen atoms thru a series of sequential Casimir cavities with non-casimir dimensions inbetween the Casimir cavities. A very crude representation is: narrowchannel=Widechannel=narrowchannel=Widechannel=narrowchannel=Widechannel=narrowchannel= The narrow channels have conducting sides (a reqmt of Casimir cavities) and are rcving the electron’s energy as it assumes a sub-ground state, and the nonconducting wide channels allow the electrons to absorb energy from the ZPF and jump back to their normal ground state. No atoms are consumed in this process; all one needs is some way to keep the atoms flowing and transporting them back to the ‘entrance’… -Mark Iverson From: Frank Roarty [mailto:froarty...@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 5:20 AM To: hohlr...@gmail.com Cc: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Irh energy upon exiting caviy Terry. I disagree with your assumption that an irh atom can carry negative energy out of the cavity.. the resonant relationship with virtual particles is proportional to casimir geometry or lack thereof in the unbroken isotropy outside the cavity where vacuum pressure only changes at gravitational square law or velocities approaching C. I do see the energy becoming transportablevia a covalent bond or this ionic bond using irh as a heavy electron... anything that traps the redundant ground state from freely transitioning like it apparently does in the atomic state..hence the need we have discussed here on vortex previously the need for asymmetry..using atomic hydrogen to attain the redundant state when suppressed by geometry is not enough.you must somehow pin the orbital low so the differential can be carried away to an area with a different suppression level where the differential can be exploited to do work.. nondirectional tasks like discounting thermal thresholds for reversible chemical reactions being best suited to this self assembly.