People keep saying "EMF" in the context of talking about a magnetic field.
 Aside from the difference being generally crucial, the energy in a
magnetic field is unavailable if it is unchanging.


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:36 PM, ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If you are talking to me, a singularity is where I was a year ago as I
> have listened to your range of theories.
>
> You also appear to be embracing string theory now and dismissed it a year
> ago.  I suggest you stop what you are doing and go back and read up on M
> theory while we are throwing out suggestions
>
> But I will read up on nanoplasmonics.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Stewart
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 13, 2013, Axil Axil wrote:
>
>> As Jed has suggested up-thread, you should suspend all current theory
>> making until you understand better what EMF brings to the LENR table. I
>> also suggest that you study Nanoplasmonics as a modern day extension of the
>> pioneering work of Pons and Fleischman. This field is currently the
>> enthusiastically embraced darling of traditional science  which can start
>> your preparation for a new paradigm of LENR theory making.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Aug 13, 2013, at 5:41 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
>>
>> Dfkalion also reports high RF interference with the phone systems and
>> their SCADA function.
>>
>>
>> Yes, which indicates that their claim for a 1.6 T magnetic field resulted
>> from a misreading of the Gauss meter, perhaps because the meter was
>> influenced by an RF field, not a magnetic field.  Perhaps the effect gives
>> off RF radiation, but it clearly does not create a strong magnetic field.
>>  Before you provide an explanation, you need to know EXACTLY what happened.
>> We do not yet have this information. The information is second hand and
>> hearsay provided by people who have shown very little understanding of what
>> they have observed in the past. We NEED better data to believe an
>> observation that conflicts with the basic ways magnetic fields are
>> generated.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>> The real data reported in the ICCF-18 paper is not hard to interpret..
>> 1.6 tesla at 20 Cms. What could be clearer than that, unless you just don't
>> want to believe it, that is.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote:
>>
>> But exactly what is the anomaly? DGT reports a magnetic field with 1.6 T.
>> Rossi reports RF radiation. Neither source gives any actual data.  I would
>> not be surprised to see RF radiation. I would be surprised to see a 1.6 T
>> magnetic field.  The devil is in the details. Using a collection of
>> ambiguous data to support a novel theory is not progress. Conventional
>> scientists complain that we in the field will believe anything, no matter
>> how impossible or poorly demonstrated. You are proving them right.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>> On Aug 13, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
>>
>> Rossi mentioned extreme EMF behavior coming out of his reactor. Two like
>> systems reporting the same type of EMF anomaly looks like the real thing to
>> me.
>>
>> If you are really interest in zeroing in on the causation of LENR, the
>> also research Rossi's EMF claims.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Aug 13, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
>>
>>  The strength of the magnetic field is a “smoking gun” for soliton
>> production.
>>
>>
>> It is a smoking gun if the claim is real. But what if the claim is not
>> real? What if we discover it is actually based on an error. What will you
>> say then? How much evidence, Axil,  do you require to believe an amazing
>> claim?  You are explaining an amazing claim using an amazing explanation
>> with neither having any evidence for being real. Can you see why your claim
>> is not believed?
>>
>> Ed
>>
>> What remains to be determined is what exact nature of the EMF produced by
>> the soliton. And is this EMF responsible for the disintegration of the
>> nucleus.
>>
>>
>>  Kim thinks it is the electrostatic field. I think it is the anapole
>> magnetic radiation that comes out of the solit
>>
>>

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