I have a very uncertain position on that affair, as no outcome seems good in what is happening... My best hope is Syria becoming a group of independent states where each minority cansurvive, even it it mean etnic cleansing like in yougoslavia...
I expect any winner to genocide the opponents. so best is no winner, or two winner. another solution is a "rational" foreign country taking control of the country, and evoiding genocide (à la Tito)... Not US as we know the result. maybe Iran, which is the most rational in the zone (don't laugh, I have data from my network... they are politically more rational and measured than many around... better than israel, saudi, US, EU... of course they have position of privacy that I don't support, but they have a brain, unlike the others cited who have electors)... anyway I expect no good outcome, because of foreign interference, and I expect a genocide like in Indonesia in the 60s, or like in rwanda (pre and post kagame), with a million dead. back to that claim. First the claim the Syrian rebels bombed their own population is absurd since the attach was very deadly, and because local rebels would have cared about making symbolic loses to trigger international reaction, not that horror (the horror is validated by NGO, chemical is validated by symptioms, only kind of chemical and origin is doubtful). The claim that foreigners, funded by big cash, and fanatic enough, may have bombed foreign population to trigger foreign action is possible... During WW2 we have seen a big democracy (I let you guess) bomb civilians to force the local germans authorities to surrenders, claiming it was targeting th port, while it was clearly targeting the population (data from mum). so no need to look very far. in that claim, which is unverified, there is an interesting point : that they used their own gas ammos, from Saudi source. If the gas used is not the one Assad owns, then we may detect that (improbable, but possible) hypothesis. I just imagine that Saudi rebels if doing so, would have stollen Assad stock, or used identical chemicals... anyway Assad responsability seems probable. He probably did so, according to retracted (hum!) French sources because CIA/saudi trained units came in the south suburb of damas and were seriously endanger the regime. I don't like assad, but im sure that all Shia, christian, druze, will be genocided if the Suni rebels, especially the saudi funded units... Afghanistan V3.0 look for the position of Nassim Nicholas Taleb who is from that region. maybe he have better information than me. I imagine that he just want that syria state disappear and be replaced by a Swiss like federation, including lebanon. 2013/8/31 John Berry <berry.joh...@gmail.com> > Shocking Story That Could Derail Attack on Syria > http://tinyurl.com/oj8g53t > 11 min. video > > Respected 20 year Middle Eastern reporter and Associated > Press, BBC and NPR correspondent Dale Gavrak was told by > Syrian rebels that they were responsible for last week's > chemical weapons incident in Ghouta. > > > Scroll down for actions. > > Article below is what the video was based on. > > > EXCLUSIVE: Syrians In Ghouta Claim Saudi-Supplied Rebels > Behind Chemical Attack > mintpressnews.com > http://tinyurl.com/nbrykrr > > > Rebels and local residents in Ghouta accuse Saudi Prince > Bandar bin Sultan of providing chemical weapons to an > al-Qaida linked rebel group. > > By Dale Gavlak and Yahya Ababneh > > This article is a collaboration between Dale Gavlak reporting > for Mint Press News and Yahya Ababneh. > Ghouta, Syria — As the machinery for a U.S.-led military > intervention in Syria gathers pace following last week’s > chemical weapons attack, the U.S. and its allies may be > targeting the wrong culprit. > > Interviews with people in Damascus and Ghouta, a suburb > of the Syrian capital, where the humanitarian agency > Doctors Without Borders said at least 355 people had died > last week from what it believed to be a neurotoxic agent, > appear to indicate as much. > > The U.S., Britain, and France as well as the Arab League > have accused the regime of Syrian President > Bashar al-Assad for carrying out the chemical weapons > attack, which mainly targeted civilians. U.S. warships are > stationed in the Mediterranean Sea to launch military strikes > against Syria in punishment for carrying out a massive > chemical weapons attack. The U.S. and others are not > interested in examining any contrary evidence, with > U.S Secretary of State John Kerry saying Monday that > Assad’s guilt was “a judgment … already clear to the world.” > > However, from numerous interviews with doctors, Ghouta > residents, rebel fighters and their families, a different picture > emerges. Many believe that certain rebels received chemical > weapons via the Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Bandar bin > Sultan, and were responsible for carrying out the dealing gas > attack. > > “My son came to me two weeks ago asking what I thought the > weapons were that he had been asked to carry,” said > Abu Abdel-Moneim, the father of a rebel fighting to unseat > Assad, who lives in Ghouta. > > Abdel-Moneim said his son and 12 other rebels were killed > inside of a tunnel used to store weapons provided by a Saudi > militant, known as Abu Ayesha, who was leading a fighting > battalion. The father described the weapons as having a > “tube-like structure” while others were like a “huge gas bottle.” > > Ghouta townspeople said the rebels were using mosques and > private houses to sleep while storing their weapons in tunnels. > > Abdel-Moneim said his son and the others died during the > chemical weapons attack. That same day, the militant group > Jabhat al-Nusra, which is linked to al-Qaida, announced that it > would similarly attack civilians in the Assad regime’s heartland > of Latakia on Syria’s western coast, in purported retaliation. > > “They didn’t tell us what these arms were or how to use them,” > complained a female fighter named ‘K.’ “We didn’t know they > were chemical weapons. We never imagined they were chemical > weapons.” > > “When Saudi Prince Bandar gives such weapons to people, he > must give them to those who know how to handle and use them,” > she warned. She, like other Syrians, do not want to use their full > names for fear of retribution. > > A well-known rebel leader in Ghouta named ‘J’ agreed. “Jabhat al- > Nusra militants do not cooperate with other rebels, except with > fighting on the ground. They do not share secret information. > They merely used some ordinary rebels to carry and operate > this material,” he said. > > “We were very curious about these arms. And unfortunately, > some of the fighters handled the weapons improperly and set > off the explosions,” ‘J’ said. > > Doctors who treated the chemical weapons attack victims > cautioned interviewers to be careful about asking questions > regarding who, exactly, was responsible for the deadly assault. > > The humanitarian group Doctors Without Borders added that > health workers aiding 3,600 patients also reported experiencing > similar symptoms, including frothing at the mouth, respiratory > distress, convulsions and blurry vision. The group has not been > able to independently verify the information. > > More than a dozen rebels interviewed reported that their salaries > came from the Saudi government. > > > Saudi involvement > > In a recent article for Business Insider, reporter Geoffrey Ingersoll > highlighted Saudi Prince Bandar’s role in the two-and-a-half year > Syrian civil war. Many observers believe Bandar, with his close ties > to Washington, has been at the very heart of the push for war by > the U.S. against Assad. > > Ingersoll referred to an article in the U.K.’s Daily Telegraph about > secret Russian-Saudi talks alleging that Bandar offered Russian > President Vladimir Putin cheap oil in exchange for dumping Assad. > > “Prince Bandar pledged to safeguard Russia’s naval base in > Syria if the Assad regime is toppled, but he also hinted at > Chechen terrorist attacks on Russia’s Winter Olympics in > Sochi if there is no accord,” Ingersoll wrote. > > Continued at: http://tinyurl.com/nbrykrr > > > Actions: > > Please share this article and discuss it with the people that answer > the phones for President Obama, your Senators and Representatives. > > Call the White House comment line now at 202-456-1111 > or 202-456-1414 to be put on hold until operator is available. > > Other ways to contact at: > http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/write-or-call#call > > > Please encourage your representative and senators to oppose > U.S. military action in Syria and support sustained diplomacy. > Find their phone at: > http://capwiz.com/fconl/directory/congdir.tt > > > Easy email actions: > > Urge our government to pursue vigorous diplomacy with Syria, not > military intervention. > http://tinyurl.com/lpd5bch > > > Tell Congress: No military action in Syria without prior > Congressional authorization. > http://tinyurl.com/qc2yhvf > > > Tell the Administration: don't attack Syria! > http://dontattacksyria.com/?source=082913Email > > > Information on emergency protests at: > http://tinyurl.com/nnzhjlf >
