But what have chemical processes in the range of a few eV got to do with nuclear processes in the range of MeV and cold fusion?
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:14 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > The hydrogen in metal hydrides is *atomic hydrogen* (nascent hydrogen). In > electron degenerate mater there are free protons. > > Your critique maybe constructive because it sorts outs some theories but not > all theories about cold fusion. > > On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:29:01 +0000, John Franks <[email protected]> wrote: > > Further furthermore if 90% of main sequence stars end up as white dwarves > when they have fini > <https://www.bredbandsbolaget.se/webmail/?_task=mail&_action=list>shed > hot fusion, according to their limits, why don't they go on burning in a CF > manner so that the sky is full of UV,Xray or even gamma ray dwarves? As the > temperature built up again thermal runaway would occur as radiation would > be limited by the small size and SB law so that hot fusion would occur > again and a supernova would result. In that case all main sequence stars > would end up as neutron stars or black holes and the sky would be littered > with them. > > > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 10:03 AM, John Franks <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Furthermore, >> The density of white dwarves is some 10^6g/cm^3 compared to water at >> 1g/cm^3. This would mean that the inter-nuclei spacing was 1/100 of water. >> Now Muon catalyzed fusion >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muon-catalyzed_fusion which we know works >> brings the nuclei 1/207 of the distance with electrons. It happens at an >> appreciable rate. >> since white dwarves are not more luminous than a black body radiating >> away with the Stefan Boltzmann law, we can conclude that there are no >> nuclear reactions AND that is the limit of what can be done with ordinary >> matter. >> In short, if you can't even get in the ball park of white dwarf matter >> in the lab, what chance in hell have you of even approaching muon catalysed >> reaction rates? >> > If CF is real, why doesn't it occur in white dwarves with their high > temperature and pressure electron degenerate matter? After all, that is the > belief system of CF in cramming these lattices with hydrogen. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_dwarf > "The material in a white dwarf no longer undergoes fusion reactions, so > the star has no source of energy, nor is it supported by the heat generated > by fusion against gravitational collapse." > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron-degenerate_matter#Degenerate_gases > "Under high densities the matter becomes a degenerate gas when the > electrons are all stripped from their parent atoms. In the core of a star, > once hydrogen burning in nuclear > fusion<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_fusion> reactions > stops, it becomes a collection of positively charged > ions<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion>, > largely helium and carbon nuclei, floating in a sea of electrons, which > have been stripped from the nuclei. Degenerate gas is an almost perfect > conductor of heat and does not obey the ordinary gas laws. White > dwarfs<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_dwarfs> are > luminous not because they are generating any energy but rather because they > have trapped a large amount of heat." > >
