Is that what all that ruckus was outside last night?  Huh.

On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 9:45 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint <zeropo...@charter.net>wrote:

> Dave,
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> It’s New Year’s eve…
>
> Go have a drink and give the grey-matter a break!!!
>
> J
>
> Happy New Year,
>
> -mark
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 31, 2013 7:13 PM
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* [Vo]:Tickle The Dragon
>
>
>
> I constructed a new computer model of the ECAT that allows me to modify
> the variables quickly and made some interesting observations.  If the
> internal temperature of the device reaches the thermal run away level, then
> it is on its way toward self destruction as Rossi has mentioned on several
> occasions.  It is speculated that he could still reverse the action if some
> form of active cooling is incorporated within his design to pull it back
> from the brink.  My latest model suggests that the amount of deviation away
> from the thermal run away temperature determines how much cooling is
> required to salvage the system.
>
> The other side of the equation is also valid.  If we assume that the drive
> is removed at the optimum time, which is when the internal temperature is
> close to but slightly below the run away point, then the device will
> immediately begin to cool off and head toward room temperature.  This
> behavior is a typical positive feedback loop where the change in direction
> reinforces itself and the action gains momentum with time.  The longer you
> wait before you correct the direction, the harder the task becomes.
>
> With this in mind, I toyed with the new model to see if it might be
> possible to use this behavior to our advantage.  The model suggests that
> this is the case and that the net COP of the device can be quite large if
> it is possible to keep the control input power pulses to low values.  For
> this to operate it is necessary for Rossi to run the ECAT at very near the
> thermal run away trip point.  The closer, the better and this reminds me of
> tickling a dragon.  You better be careful or it might get angry and you
> know the consequences.
>
> I initiated the output power by supplying a large power pulse which is
> required to push the operation into the negative resistance region so that
> the positive feedback takes over and the modeled temperature begins to
> climb toward the thermal run away level.  The temperature climb takes place
> while the large drive level is active so that control is available.  Once
> close operation to the trip point is achieved, the power input is rapidly
> removed.  This removal of input power is the control method which causes
> the positive feedback system to reverse direction and begin its path toward
> cooling to room temperature.
>
> Then, my new test control concept is put into action.  I monitor the
> internal feedback power which falls rapidly as the device cools even though
> the temperature and output power falls quite a bit less due to the
> polynomial power effect.  The reversal can be achieved by supplying power
> greater than the difference between the self sustaining power and the
> internally generated power.  The actual power required approaches zero if
> the temperature can be kept at a tiny amount below the thermal runaway
> temperature.   If active cooling is available, then both sides of the trip
> point could be used.
>
> The model demonstrates a very large COP, but of course changes in the
> environment such as the temperature of the coolant and its flow rate as
> well as many other factors must be considered to determine a safe operation
> temperature band.  And, since the ECAT is not available to test it is not
> possible to establish real time constants for accurate modeling.  With
> these constraints I have constructed a very general model that can be used
> to generate concepts and to see how some of the variables interact.  I have
> no way to obtain delay information at this time and of course, that will
> complicate the performance greatly if excessive.
>
> I want to mention that the recent statements that Rossi has made on his
> blog strongly suggest that the ECAT operates in a manner that is consistent
> with my model.  It is interesting that I can immediately place his numbers
> into my model in a location that makes sense.  The latest discussion of the
> mouse having a reverse relationship to the main cat does seem out of line
> unless he is using words to obscure the meaning.
>
> Dave
>

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