*"My suspicion is that many of Sheldrakes 'non-materialist' ideas, such as
the idea that memories are not just physical traces in the brain will turn
out to be true, but will also turn out to be materialist and grounded in
the science that we already understand."*

Well I would say many of the ideas will still remain in the
"non-materialist" realm because the core of "materialism" is A) direct
measurement, and B) isolated atomism. So while the newly unveiled science
will still have a "material" (3 Dimensional) aspect, it will draw much more
heavily on A) indirect measurement, and B) interconnected field theory. And
of course as we dig down deeper and deeper into the quantum realm the whole
notion of "material" entities begins to lose its coherence because nothing
more than smeared quantum waves exist that obey all manner of bizarre rules
contrary to our experience. Also the whole "non-materialist" notion is
inlaid with the idea of teleology and meaning, while "materialism" is all
about random chance and serendipity. So you're right that "materialism"
will not disappear, but our understanding of how the world works and our
place in it will be totally reworked (similar to the transition from
medieval to renaissance thinking).

Regards,
John


On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 4:26 AM, Nigel Dyer <l...@thedyers.org.uk> wrote:

>
> My suspicion is that many of Sheldrakes 'non-materialist' ideas, such as
> the idea that memories are not just physical traces in the brain will turn
> out to be true, but will also turn out to be materialist and grounded in
> the science that we already understand.
>
> Nigel
>
>
> On 08/01/2014 06:36, jwin...@cyllene.uwa.edu.au wrote:
>
> On 8/01/2014 1:03 PM, Rich Murray wrote:
>
>     ...
> The Scientific Creed and the Credibility Crunch for Materialism
>   by *Rupert Sheldrake*, Ph.D; biologist and author of Science Set 
> Free<http://www.deepakchopra.com/book/view/927>
> ...
>
>
> Worth taking a look at the Sheldrake interview relating to the Scole
> Experiment <http://www.victorzammit.com/evidence/scole.htm> (see near end
> of last youtube video on the page as well as in the main 1.5hr program).
> Having seen what he saw with his naked eyes, it is hardly surprising that
> he is no longer a fundamentalist of "scientific materialism" persuasion (if
> he ever was)!
>
>
>

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