One of the goals of the dense plasma focus(DPF) reactor design is to
convert the ions produced by the plasmoid directly into electric power
using a MDH. In that system energy comes from two sources, ions and x-rays.


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Marcus Haber <[email protected]> wrote:

> Quote:
>
> "If you have an intense source of UV in a plasma (as Mills
> apparently does) then it is possible to use a photocell for conversion, but
> the plasma will also have a lot of +ions which destroy the photocell. A
> protective window is impossible since UV is absorbed by the window."
>
> Thought about using fused Quartz?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fused_quartz
>
> It doesnt filter UV radiation and should protoect the photo cell
>
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2014 um 18:44 Uhr
> *Von:* "Jones Beene" <[email protected]>
> *An:* [email protected]
> *Betreff:* RE: [Vo]:MHD- from Russia with Love...
> I have reworded this post below to make it clearer, and
> change the dyslexic wording (power <-> energy) and account for the magnetic
> field, all based on original guesstimates of the Russians.
>
>
> From: [email protected]
>
> Very interesting. Can such a device convert
> terahertz radiation into DC power?
> No.
> An oversimplification of Cuccia coupling is this: microwaves
> couple to electrons at very high efficiency and UV couples to microwaves at
> very high efficiency. UV does not couple to electrons directly at high
> efficiency - therefore another wavelength geometry must act as the
> intermediary, in order to transfer the mass-energy of photons of UV to
> electrons. AFAIK terahertz doesn't couple.
> If you have an intense source of UV in a plasma (as Mills
> apparently does) then it is possible to use a photocell for conversion, but
> the plasma will also have a lot of +ions which destroy the photocell. A
> protective window is impossible since UV is absorbed by the window.
> As a result, the best way to achieve this kind of direct
> conversion when the excess power is UV in a range of 55 eV and up - is to
> have a microwave powered plasma reactor with an e-beam component, and with
> modest ion containment via a bucking magnetic field as in the Russian CWC
> device. The electrons and positive ions are contained briefly and then
> separated magnetically BUT in addition, the UV (excess energy of ground
> state redundancy) effectively accelerates the electrons by Cuccia coupling
> to the microwaves. It is a hybrid and it only works with UV as the main
> gain.
> Microwaves can be generated very efficiently in an external
> device such as a microtron, so this helps. In the end, you could apply a
> power input say 1.3 kW of electricity to generate 1 kW of microwaves, and
> provide an electron beam of 300 watts - which combine to create a plasma
> with protons and electrons being the prime charge carriers. The electrons
> will be accelerated and come out of the plasma with perhaps 10 kW of output
> power. The gyrotron configuration with reversed fields (bucking fields) is
> efficient for charge separation- so in the end we can removed 6 kW of DC
> high voltage electricity... at least that is "on paper".
> In operation, at least 1.6 kW is recycled back to make the
> microwaves and e-beam, and perhaps 200 watts for the magnetic field, so
> there is a net energy of 4.2 kW electrical output DC...all of which
> originally started out in the plasma as UV photons (55 eV and up) as the OU
> component, with about 4 kW of waste heat.
> It is beautiful on paper, but how does it work out in
> practice?
>

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