The initial momentum of the pendulum does not have to come from the rotation of the earth. It could come from some chemical energy such as a muscle or a bomb.
Harry On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 5:13 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: > You need to be thinking of momentum instead of energy Harry. The two > are not interchangeable. > > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: H Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 4:39 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:: RAR gravity engine > > Oh, now I get the point. > You can't build a mechanism which extracts more energy from the rotation > of the earth then you put into the mechanism. > > On the other hand, if the goal is to lengthen the day rather than > generate useful energy, then > such a mechanism would be considered useful. > > :- / > > harry > > > On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 3:09 PM, H Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> ...and the rotational speed of the earth will descrease as a >> consequence. >> >> harry >> >> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 3:06 PM, H Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Focault's pendulum could be used to extract energy from the rotation >>> of the earth. >>> >>> harry >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. < >>> hoyt-stea...@cox.net> wrote: >>> >>>> You're undoubtedly right. It makes me wonder if these simple >>>> newtonian problems from dynamics 101 can be so >>>> mind blowing, what's the chances of analyzing these bizarre non-linear >>>> maxwellian/relativistic/quantum mechanical kinds >>>> of problems. >>>> >>>> Hoyt >>>> >>>> *From:* Nigel Dyer [mailto:l...@thedyers.org.uk] >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, February 9, 2014 10:34 AM >>>> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:: RAR gravity engine >>>> >>>> As I found out some years ago when I spent a couple of months on this, >>>> whatever system you come up with, when you actually go through the maths it >>>> comes up with the same answer, and that is that you cannot extract energy >>>> from the rotation of the earth without reference to some external body. >>>> You can come up with complicated systems that makes the maths more >>>> difficult (our gyroscopes on railway tracks travelling between the pole and >>>> the equator was particularly 'interesting' to analyse. I'm not sure that >>>> 15 years later my brain is still up to it, that why I get my son to do it), >>>> and that is what may have happened with the RAR machine. Its complexity >>>> hides a mistake in the analysis of the forces and moments which made it >>>> appear that it was possible to extract energy from the earths magnetic >>>> field. >>>> >>>> Nigel >>>> <http://www.avast.com/> >>>> >>> >> >
