In HHO welding, there is no electric current employed. HHO welding is just the burning of hydrogen in oxygen.
But how does a hydrogen combustion process that produces only 2,660 °C in heat vaporize tungsten at (5930 °C, 10706 °F). This does not add up unless there is LENR involved. On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Roarty, Francis X < francis.x.roa...@lmco.com> wrote: > Axil, Langmuir was aware of this anomaly and advised not to pursue it > when he developed atomic welding with tungsten electrodes.. some will > insist it is the energy of recombination but if so then welding would not > be a constant flow and one would have to continually stop, build up a > reservoir of atomic hydrogen [which opposes retaining that state] and then > weld a little bit to exhaust the recombination energy in a very short burst > to exploit the stored energy enough to melt tungsten. Since atomic welding > is a smooth process and the electrical energy employed by the arc is not to > my knowledge significant enough to account for the melting capability then > yes.. your point is well taken. > > Fran > > *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, March 17, 2014 11:11 PM > *To:* vortex-l > *Subject:* EXTERNAL: [Vo]:HHO welding is LENR > > > > Why is a HHO flame able to vaporize tungsten and yet will not burn the > skin of your hand. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax4sW3bo_dM > > > > The HHO gas stream contains solid crystals of water. These crystals act > like nano lenses that concentrate infrared light in the boundary layer > between a shiny metal surface and a dielectric gas like hydrogen or oxygen. > The science that studies this effect is called nanoplasmonics. > > > > The heat energy is confined to the metal surface and locked in(AKA dark > mode) and concentrated their like in a EMF black hole. > > > > The metal surface is said to have a negative coefficient of reflectivity. > This keeps the heat from leaving the metal surface. In this way the heat > energy builds up to huge temperatures to the point where it will vaporize > tungsten. > > > > The skin on your hand has a positive index of reflectivity; it is not > shiny. The heat from hydrogen combustion is not confined to the surface of > your skin and can escape to the surrounding air. So you will not be readily > burned by the HHO flame. > > > > This is a basic LENR effect (aka evanescent wave - > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_wave) of energy concentration and > focusing. This indicates that the upper temperature limit of the LENR > effect is beyond the temperature required to vaporize tungsten (5930 °C, > 10706 °F) > > > > On the other hand, the combustion temperature of hydrogen is only 2,660 °C > with oxygen. Do I need to spell this out any further? > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ceOL83PM24 > > > > On the downside, spark ignition of HHO does not use the LENR effect of the > evanescent wave. > > > > So burning hydrogen in oxygen is only combustion and not LENR. > > > > >
