Alain etal.--

This paper by Duncan etal. from ICCF-18 identified by Alain remind me of an 
experience involving stress corrosion in Ni-Cr-Fe alloy 600 over 40 years ago.  
The material specification being used to procure the Ni-Cr-Fe material did not 
control the concentration of Niobium.  It was not believed to be an element 
that need to be controlled.  However, some heats of material were subject to 
stress corrosion and some were not.  The ones coming from one vendor were 
generally good and ones coming from another vendor were not so good.  It turned 
out that the vendor producing the good heats--those that did not corrode--had 
added Nb in a very small amount--several parts per million--to its heats, still 
meeting the specification, since this element, Nb, was not controlled by the 
specification.  The small amount of Nb turned out to tie up carbon which was 
allowed to a small extent per the specification.   It reacted with the carbon 
in the grain boundaries and prevented stress corrosion from occurring.  The 
micro stress patterns were changed and internal stress small.  The local energy 
necessary for the stress corrosion cracking did not develop.  

Embrittlement is what happened in the welds of hulls of Liberty Ships that 
broke up under stressing and fatigue during  WW1. The welds were embrittled by 
ionization of water in stick electrodes used to weld sections of the hulls 
together. The migration of the hydrogen to local defects caused internal 
pressure and the embrittlement. The lesson was: Do not to use wet electrodes 
for welding steel. 

The devil is in the details.  

Separately,  a good mechanism for controlling cracks may be the introduction of 
water during alloying.  Various small amount of crystals of hydration can be 
added to a preparation of an alloy using powder metals mixed and diced in a 
cryogenic ball-milling machine.  (Such a device uses liquid N-2 as the liquid 
in the ball milling process to get very fine--maybe nano scale--particles of an 
alloy and the hydrated crystal.  The N-2 is nice, since it prevents the 
agglomeration of particles by coating each particle with a layer of N-2.  Very 
good mixing is possible.  The slurry mixture is poured into molds under a 
vacuum to keep stray atoms out and the N-2 is allowed to evaporate under the 
vacuum and added temperature and pressure.  Pressure bonding is accomplished 
with the hydrated crystal in the bonded metal lattice.  During the heating and 
pressure bonding process, the water of hydration changes to O-2 and H-2, the 
O-2 reacts to form a metal oxide and the hydrogen collects in defects to form 
an internal pressure and embrittlement.   The metal atoms bond together being 
very pure with little on no excess heat and whatever pressure it takes.  (He 
may be used in the pressure bonding process once the N-2 is off gassed.) There 
is no oxide reduction necessary to get  the metal to bond well..  The small 
amount of O-2 reacts locally at the point where the crystal of hydration ends 
up in the mix.   The grains are very small and well controlled in size 
considering the amount of water of hydration used in the mix.  For magnetic 
materials like Ni and Pd these boundaries may even be oriented in a desired 
direction during bonding. 

Deuterated water of hydration crystals may be a good sauce in this mix for Pd, 
giving pockets of D-2 at the grain boundaries without preloading.   

Anybody wanting a patent on this process idea should get to work. (smile)

Bob 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Alain Sepeda 
  To: Vortex List 
  Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 8:26 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Stimulate embrittlement


  you can add to that the observation by ENEA that 100 structure of the surface 
(can someone explain me... it seems meaning just that cutting is done parallel 
to the cube facets)
  
https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10355/36833/ExcessPowerDuringElectrochemical.pdf?sequence=1








  2014-03-23 15:48 GMT+01:00 Teslaalset <robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.com>:

    The topic of creating the right NAEs touches my recent querries for 
optimizing Nickel embrittlement.
    There's lots of info available in the public and scientific domain on 
reducing embrittlement of Nickel, hinting at some of the main possible causes. 


    Some of those causes:
      a.. Copper - Nickel alloys, where oxidized copper clusters in nickel 
alloys can form H2O and Copper, where the local H2O can cause very high 
pressures that in their turn can cause cracks (and holes). My association with 
this is the use of the Cu-Ni-Mn alloys Celani used for his recent research. 

      b.. Carbon to enforce Nickel alloys. Under pressure and elevated 
temperatures Hydrogen and Carbon can form pockets of Methane causing 
embrittlement.


    Looking to causes of embrittlement of pure Nickel there are not so many 
hints that I could find so far.
    I guess absorbtion and desorbtion at certain rates are the most common 
known causes to create Nickel embrittlement.
    Are there others known?


    Last thing I would like to mention is the remarking indication of Defkalion 
of modifying Nickel lattice from FCC to C4 or a Pm3m structure,
    Any clues on how they would do this? 



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