IF the energy came only from deuterium nuclear breakup (D = 2(H)) , the
energy level seen would be reduced by a factor of 6000 along with the
expansion in the gas volume.


On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Carl High <diamondweb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Perhaps a dumb question, but would there be enough deuterium in natural
> hydrogen to carry the reaction forward?
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 11:34 AM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com>wrote:
>
>> The main problem I see with this line of reasoning is that Rossi and DGT
>> are getting positive results.  Why would that happen unless the normal
>> hydrogen reacts with nickel directly?  There may well be a reaction of D
>> taking place within the system, and if singular hydrogen is the result,
>> then that should start reacting by itself generating heat.  There remain
>> too many questions and it is prudent to consider that this experiment needs
>> to be replicated before the total story unfolds.
>>
>> I would much rather see normal hydrogen reacting with nickel as the main
>> energy source for several good reasons.  Rossi and DGT appear to have
>> strong positive results and of course the cost of D is far in excess to
>> that of 1H.  Let's allow the dust to settle a bit.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net>
>> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
>> Sent: Fri, Mar 28, 2014 11:06 am
>> Subject: RE: [Vo]:Mizuno slides coming
>>
>>   *From:* Eric Walker
>>
>>    I would have thought that the protons would migrate out and recombine
>> to form H2.  But I don't think that would account for a twofold increase.
>>
>> There would be a net decrease in gas quantity under any scenario in which
>> D2 reacts with nickel - never wound an increase be expected, even small -
>> much less a ~2:1 increase in gas quantity. Amazing.
>>
>> The chances of measurement error are minimal with this kind of
>> instrumentation, especially since they performed a control run which did as
>> expected - so the best assumption is that what they reported was at least
>> fairly accurate.
>>
>> This takes a while to sink in, but it most likely means essentially that
>> almost every deuterium atom is converted into 2 hydrogen atoms, with a net
>> gain in energy. This also means that very few deuterons could have reacted
>> with nickel, or else the quantity of gas would not have increased so
>> remarkably.
>>
>> That is our most likely starting premise, unless there was severe
>> measurement error. If there was measurement error in this aspect - then the
>> calorimetry is also highly suspect, since it is much harder to perform.
>> However, the control run indicates that they did everything correctly and
>> we should at least start our analysis with that premise.
>>
>>  Jones
>>
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