Who is Gamberale, and why should his words be trusted? There seems to be a way of entering into the Ni/H reactor vender marketplace that has developed and that Gamberale has decided to take advantage of.
It all starts with Rossi and Piantelli. Rossi got his start in the NI/H reactor development game when Rossi hired Piantelli’s research partner to show Rossi the ropes that Piantilli had developed in the new Ni/H technology. Rossi took that head start that Piantelli had so painfully crafted since 1989 and added his own new ideas to move the technology forward. Next, DGT understood that NI/H reactor technology was real from the work that Rossi had done in the partnership with DGT to that point and then when Rossi decided to pull out of that deal, DGT decided that they had seen enough to go it alone. It was worth the time and money to go it their own way to develop a better product than Rossi had up to that time. Now it is Gamberale’s turn feeding at the trough. “but he also told me that he personally still believes that LENR is an important scientific and technological area and that he is getting involved in two other projects in this domain.” Where did Gamberale get this feeling that LENR is an important technological area that he needs to devote his career to? Surely Gamberale has not gotten any info from Rossi. Rossi will not permit anyone to do to him what he did to Piantelli. He can thank DGT for all the knowledge and on the job training he got working with DGT for his acceptance into the LENR developer’s fray. And who are these venders he will be working with? And what can Gamberale bring to their table that he has not gotten from his working life with DGT? Maybe Gamberale was successful at looking under DGT’s dress for a leg up into the LENR marketplace; after all, it has been done by a few others before Gamberale got into this business. If I were these two new victims, I would not let my reactor unattended and alone with this guy. After all, If he takes what he needs from a past partner and bad mouths them, he is likely to do it to his new partners when the time is ripe for them On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> wrote: > I agree Alain. No one needs to pity Dr. Kim, I'm sure he (and others) > have measured "something" of relevance, just nothing commercially viable. > In regards to another point being stated explicitly or eluded to by others > on vortex since this story dropped, I think it is rather premature to call > "fraud" on DGT. That is a rather reactionary stance to take despite the > shadow of a doubt this new report casts on DGT. As you've just said, I have > a hard time believing all the data accumulated and/or publicized has been > fraudulent, but rather over-sold, which is different. If we all just begin > to villainize DGT this prematurely in a reactionary fashion, how are we any > better than fundamentalist skeptics? We have to be careful. I'm not saying > we need to be apologists for DGT by any stretch, but let's not get > indignant either. Rather lets give this a few months to play out and let > DGT respond before everyone goes crazy with accusations and innuendo. Just > my thoughts. > > --- John > > > On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Alain Sepeda <alain.sep...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> whether they just have a modest COP and don't want to admit it because >> they sold huge COP before is one thing... >> having nothing seems hard to imagine, but pretending 10x more is possible >> for desperate startup... >> >> the claims of magnetic field seems exaggerated, but why claiming pure >> imagined phenomenon? >> >> anyway it is tragic for serious LENr actors, even if later Defkalion >> prove his reactor. >> >> >> 2014-05-13 15:43 GMT+02:00 Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net>: >> >>> *From:* Blaze Spinnaker >>> >>> I feel very bad for Dr. Kim, however. >>> >>> >>> >>> You shouldn’t. Kim and others may not have been completely duped, and we >>> must assume that although DGT could not show the type of gain which would >>> allow massive funding, they still very likely have found an energy anomaly >>> in the range of COP between 1 and 2. Everything Kim says could apply to a >>> lower gain device, which is still beyond the Laws of Physics. >>> >>> >>> >>> This range of overunity gain has been seen for 25 years, going back to >>> Thermacore, and even at NASA (see the Niedra report) and MIT (by Haldeman, >>> never acknowledged by the University). Yet with the advent of Rossi, it is >>> no longer of interest to many funders. >>> >>> >>> >>> The reality of the funding situation, given the large number of >>> claimants in the LENR field is that a COP of greater than 1 but less than 2 >>> is not going to generate A million dollar check, which was part of the >>> flawed DGT business plan. In fact, they want $50 million per license LOL. >>> >>> >>> >>> The open issue wrt DGT, and it is a huge technical issue which needs to >>> be addressed, hopefully by Dr. Kim - is the large magnetic field, reported >>> by DGT. >>> >>> >>> >>> Jones >>> >> >> >
