Ken Shoulders has a patent on isotope stabilization by the way using electric spark.
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: > U238 will fission under the laser irradiation of gold nano-particles in > water. When the laser beam is on no radiation will be seen. > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> And a LENR reaction would coincide with this? That's what I'm interested >> in seeing. >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:32 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> We can take a gamma ray source like U232 or something else, and put it >>> in a container with water and nano-gold particles, then hit it with a laser >>> beam. When the beam is on, gammas will be shielded. You would need to sync >>> up the detector to the laser pulse. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> OK, I think you're telling me it can't be generated & measured in a >>>> lab, and if it can, you don't have any real idea how to at this point. >>>> Right? I've asked you this like 5-6 times now. >>>> >>>> I don't fully understand what you just wrote. If we create the BEC >>>> quantum coherent shielding effect in a controlled, NiH cell environment, >>>> we'd have a "generator" why? Can we can't test for it or not? I'm a bit >>>> befuddled. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> You can setup a BEC shield test but then you would have a LENR >>>>> reactor. Maybe something can be done with the Mizuno;s reactor. He seems >>>>> to >>>>> be very open, unlike Rossi and DGT. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Leaving the idea of mathematical equivalence aside, and for the sake >>>>>> of argument I'll just take your word for it (though I'm sure that's a >>>>>> debatable point), if they were physically equivalent LENR would not be >>>>>> such >>>>>> a novel & hard-to-detect effect -- it would be ubiquitous and obvious. >>>>>> Or, >>>>>> at the very least, not so rare at the classical level. For example, I >>>>>> think >>>>>> there is evidence that humans are quantum-coherent, but I have actual >>>>>> evidence from investigations of biological organisms to back that up, not >>>>>> abstractions from disparate fields of study that I make subjective >>>>>> connections between. >>>>>> >>>>>> OK so we can't test the quantum-coherent gamma barrier, right? We >>>>>> just take it on a certain amount of faith (for the present I'm guessing) >>>>>> that it can do all the things you say it does? Similar to WLT? If this is >>>>>> the case, at the very least I think some calculations for a phenomenon >>>>>> that >>>>>> produces no testable predictions in LENR systems. WLT do provide >>>>>> calculations at least, though most of them have been torn apart by a >>>>>> number >>>>>> of competent people in the field. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:49 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The physics and math of ultra cold BEC is the same as for polariton >>>>>>> BEC. I read that somewhere. So the experimental results of one can be >>>>>>> applied to the other. Experiments of hot BEC are not possible because >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> parameters of the experiment cannot be well controlled. Cold BEC is >>>>>>> always >>>>>>> used for experimentation because parameters can be controlled. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In my mind, polariton lasers show energy sharing where pumped energy >>>>>>> is converted to a single energy level. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:42 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This was work on "ultracold atom ensembles". OK, that's >>>>>>>> interesting, and? Why are you so sure "ultracold" phenomenon can so >>>>>>>> easily >>>>>>>> manifest at high temperature. And what proves these ultracold >>>>>>>> phenomenon >>>>>>>> can generate some system-wide absorption of radiation & internal >>>>>>>> thermal >>>>>>>> heat? I'll ask again if there's anyway to experimentally demonstrate >>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>> you're talking about in very different LENR systems? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:33 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> See >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rydberg excitation of a Bose-Einstein condensate >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://arxiv.org/pdf/1203.1261v1.pdf >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Think of Rydberg excitement as the energy product of the reaction >>>>>>>>> in terms of the physics. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You lost me there. It must be because, like Jones said, I don't >>>>>>>>>> understand QM. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As far as I was aware, if we are talking about the same >>>>>>>>>> experiment, is that the IR hot-spots clearly demonstrate an NAE >>>>>>>>>> reacting. >>>>>>>>>> Nothing more nothing less. They were not detecting nuclear products, >>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>> spotted heat events. I don't understand how this demonstrates a >>>>>>>>>> BEC-shield >>>>>>>>>> in any way. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If superfuidic temperature distribution is demonstrated in a NjH >>>>>>>>>>> reactor, this proves that a global BEC has formed. The production of >>>>>>>>>>> flashing hot spots as viewed by a infrared camera shows that a BEC >>>>>>>>>>> has not >>>>>>>>>>> formed. I has seen this video. If no hot spots are seen in the >>>>>>>>>>> lattice of >>>>>>>>>>> the reactor, then a BEC has formed. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> OK, so these papers are basically saying hot fusion/fission is >>>>>>>>>>>> occurring in these nano-plasmon environments, right? Now the trick >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> course is proving that a coherent BEC state, that links together a >>>>>>>>>>>> phase-coherent quantum-system (aka "soliton") then dissipates all >>>>>>>>>>>> that mass >>>>>>>>>>>> energy through systemic distribution, can actually exist. >>>>>>>>>>>> Widom-Larsen have >>>>>>>>>>>> taken a similar road without success. Hagelstein has tried to do >>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>> through a phonon quasi-particle model with limited success. Again, >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> papers are all well and good, what experiments do you suggest to >>>>>>>>>>>> show this >>>>>>>>>>>> is going on in all NiH LENR systems beside the particle chamber >>>>>>>>>>>> suggestion? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have put forth the nanoplasmonic experiments done with >>>>>>>>>>>>> lasers. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Repeated many times in previous posts and except in part as >>>>>>>>>>>>> follows: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> have referenced papers here to show how the confinement of >>>>>>>>>>>>> electrons on the surface of gold nanoparticles: a nanoplasmonic >>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanism >>>>>>>>>>>>> can change the half-life of U232 from 69 years to 6 >>>>>>>>>>>>> microseconds. It also causes thorium to fission. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> See references: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CC4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Farxiv.org%2Fpdf%2F1112.6276&ei=nI6UUeG1Fq-N0QGypIAg&usg=AFQjCNFB59F1wkDv-NzeYg5TpnyZV1kpKQ&sig2=fhdWJ_enNKlLA4HboFBTUA&bvm=bv.46471029,d.dmQ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Experiments showing the same mechanism as listed below: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Laser-induced synthesis and decay of Tritium under exposure >>>>>>>>>>>>> of solid targets in heavy water" >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://arxiv.org/abs/1306.0830 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Initiation of nuclear reactions under laser irradiation of >>>>>>>>>>>>> Au nanoparticles in the presence of Thorium aqua ions >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0906/0906.4268.pdf >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
