Well, supper's done and I found the reference I was looking for.  This is
an interview with Sergio Focardi where he talks about the technology.  He
says radiation is present and that is why they have the lead. He talks
about having a radiation detector outside the reactor to shut down the
reactor if radiation is detected because the shielding has been damaged.
 The interviewer asks him if Rossi had added "uranium" to the reactor and
he says no.  He does not say that there are no radioisotopes, but that
appears to be the intent of what he goes on to say.

   - "A radio interview with Sergio Focardi, the father of 'Ni-H Cold
   Fusion'"; Radio Citta del Capo - Bologna - Italy.

You can get it off of my Google drive at:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5Pc25a4cOM2VHhPQ0paM1dvME0/edit?usp=sharing


Bob Higgins

On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Well, as I went back and checked, it was the earlier paper Focardi wrote
> describing Piantelli's Ni-H experiments where Focardi reported substantial
> gamma.  You talk about a Mizuno "hero" experiment where Mizuno reports 108
> MJ, in this Focardi paper, Piantelli had one experiment over 900 MJ and
> another with 600 MJ, and gamma was detected both.  There were no
> radioactive ingredients in these experiments. The paper is:
>
>    - "Overview of H-Ni Systems: Old Experiments and New Setup"; E.
>    Campari, S Focardi, V. Gabbani, V. Montalbanco, F. Piantelli, S. Veronesi;
>    ~2004
>
> Also see this paper where the experimenters went to great length to
> protect themselves from previously detected radiation and measures the
> gamma spectrum:
>
>    - "Evidence of electromagnetic radiation from Ni-H Systems"; S.
>    Focardi, V. Gabbani, V. Montalbano, F. Piantelli, S. Veronesi; 2004
>
> In Focardi's 2010 paper with Rossi, Focardi describes the reactor as being
> "suitably lead shielded".  Obviously from Focardi's previous experience,
> the lead was added.  It was not a desirable component, but deemed
> necessary.  In this paper, Focardi describes one of the long tests of
> Rossi's early reactors as producing 4774 kWH of excess heat - approx.
> 17,000 MJ.  Dwarfing what is done by Piantelli and Mizuno.  There was no
> mention made of radioactive ingredients.  That paper is:
>
>    - "A new energy source from nuclear fusion"; S. Focardi and A. Rossi;
>    3/22/2010
>
> I think there is still another paper, but I will have to dig deeper in my
> archives.  Clearly, gamma HAS been detected coincident with huge ("hero")
> excess heat in Ni-H systems.
>
> Yes, I am quite aware that some researchers have salted their experiments
> with radioactive isotopes.  I also know that Dennis Cravens sometimes use
> thorium oxide for that purpose (he showed me his jar).  That doesn't mean
> that Piantelli or Rossi did.  In analysis of the Rossi ash by Kullander and
> Essen, a heavy radioisotope would absolutely have been detected - and it
> wasn't.
>
> I never said radioisotopes were never used by anyone.  I just claimed it
> was "Bozo speculation" to say that Rossi uses a radioisotope.  Maybe "Bozo"
> is mean, but I meant it to be because I believe it to be totally unfounded
> and defamatory to Rossi (it will affect the perception of what he has).
>
> Now you show me the reports and evidence that Rossi *does* use a
> radioisotope in his system.
>
> Time for dinner.  :)
>
> Bob Higgins
>
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> So many egregious errors ... so little time to correct them all...
>>
>> Bob Higgins: This business of Rossi using a radioactive ingredient is a
>> Bozo
>>
>> speculation based on absolutely nothing.  And Rossi is not the only one to
>> measure gamma from a LENR experiment ...
>>
>> Oh... Rossi measured gamma? News to me. Can we see your citation on that
>> one, please. In the mean time, here is precisely what Focardi and Rossi
>> have
>> to say in print - about gamma radiation in the E-Cat:
>>
>> http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/FocardiSanewenergy.pdf
>>
>> Focardi and Rossi: "During experimental tests, continuous controls on the
>> radioactivity levels in close proximity to the apparatus suitably lead
>> shielded, were performed by using a gamma ray detector and three passive
>> neutron bubble detectors, one of which for thermal neutrons: no radiation
>> was observed at levels greater than natural radiation background. No
>> radioactivity has been found also in the Nickel residual from the process.
>>
>> As for the "Bozo speculation" apparently Higgins in unaware that numerous
>> researchers, including Dennis Cravens, who he apparently admires - have
>> used
>> a radioactive ingredient to jump start the LENR reaction. This technique
>> goes back a long way in LENR -all the way back to the first issue of
>> Infinite Energy See I.E. # 1, p. 46, "Cold Fusion in a 'Ying Cell' and
>> "Probability Enhancement by Boson Stimulation," by Nelson Ying and Charles
>> W. Shults III.
>>
>> I presume that Cravens is not the Bozo, so who is? Celani? He was the
>> first
>> to mention this possibility.
>>
>> All of these guys, and probably Rossi as well found that a small
>> radioactive
>> source increased the reaction rate by many orders of magnitude at startup
>> -
>> way, way beyond its own physical contribution. Rusi Taleyarkhan and others
>> in bubble fusion have also used a radioactive source as a trigger, which
>> became a problem later on. It may not be S.O.P. but it is done.
>>
>> Jones
>>
>

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