This assumes insulating it will have no adverse effect on the "new fire", but excessive insulation could extinguish it. A good test to perform on the Hotcat would be to add the insulation *after* start up.
Harry On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:24 PM, <jwin...@cyllene.uwa.edu.au> wrote: > I don't know why Rossi doesn't do this. I think he must hardly have any > ingenuity - or the scientists/engineers that are in a position to advise > him! (Or you could think of more insulting terms). > > To convert the output heat to electricity, and then convert it back to > input heat would have to be the craziest approach imaginable to use! > > To feed the output heat back in as input heat all you need to do is > insulate the device. What could be easier than that!? > > Then to stop it running away and melting down all you need to do is pump > water or blow gas through it to cool it down in a controlled manner with a > thermostatically controlled switch (which could even be a passive device > like the old thermostats used in the cooling systems of auto-mobile > engines). The cooling necessary to prevent melt-down represents your > output energy. > > If you need some electrical "excitation" in addition to plain old > resistive heating, then this would be a very small component and could > easily be subtracted from the output energy to determine the energy > balance. But the fact that the system "runs away" if it is allowed to get > too hot - even after the "excitation" has been turned off - proves that > this "excitation" is not really required. > > On 18/10/2014 7:32 AM, Paul Breed wrote: > >> Closing the loop with a hot side temperature of 1200C and a COP of 3, is >> right on the very edge of possible... >> >> You need close to 50% of theoretical carnot efficiency... >> >> 100C cold 1200C hot gives carnot of 0.76 >> >> Best possible heat to mechanical work.. (3*.76) = 2.28 >> Best possible Work to electricity 0.95 >> >> gives 2.116 so to break even close the loop and have ZERO excess energy >> you would need to get to 46% of carnot >> Commercial large scale power plants don't get to 46% of carnot.... >> >> Using something really simple like thermo electric (seebeck) generator >> would require a COP of 20.2 to get to break even >> assuming that electrical conversion efficency was 99% >> > >
