Alan,

The report notes that they ignored the energy needed to heat the steam
beyond 100C and also underestimated the flow by 10% to be conservative.
Does this affect your analysis?

Jack

On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Alan Fletcher <a...@well.com> wrote:

> *From: *"David Roberson" <dlrober...@aol.com>
> *Sent: *Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:09:13 AM
>
> > I was referring to the evidence supporting the claimed COP and not the
> usefulness of the steam itself.  Accurate measurement of the heat power is
> the important issue at hand.  Of course the guys calculating the COP must
> know how much heat the steam contains.  That seems obvious and not needing
> to be stated.
>
> Still needs to be taken into account.  They don't describe the structure
> of the "boiler".  Since they're only aiming for 100C steam the hotcat
> heater elements are most likely immersed in a tank of water, so they just
> boil the water and don't super-heat the resulting steam.
>
> In that case it's most like a kettle boiler, which will typically (is this
> situation typical?) generate 95% steam quality.  Depending on the
> application they might not even need "dry" 100C steam.
>
> In the original test they just had a simple outlet valve to check that no
> liquid water was escaping. They probably had that here, too, though it's
> not described.
>
> A real-life steam customer will be happy just seeing some steam vented,
> with no liquid water running out of the outlet.
>
> But it won't satisfy scientists and skeptics.  Or the patent office?
>

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