El miércoles, 31 de enero de 2018, 15:30:03 (UTC), Christoph Junghans 
escribió:
>
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 3:50 AM,  <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> wrote: 
> > El miércoles, 31 de enero de 2018, 5:26:35 (UTC), sikandar escribió: 
> >> 
> >> Hi Daniel, 
> >> 
> >> It is possible to use relative entropy implementation in VOTCA to 
> >> coarse-grain protein. At this point, relative entropy implementation in 
> >> VOTCA supports only non-bonded interaction coarse-graining. For bonded 
> >> interaction you will need to use Boltzmann inversion or other suitable 
> >> method. VOTCA does support multithreaded parallel processing of MD 
> >> trajectories and parallel MD simulations using GROMACS. 
> > 
> > 
> > Is there a plan to include them soon? 
> Not really, but patches are always welcome! 
>

Great. Would it be very difficult?
 

>
> > 
> > So, if I understood correctly, one would create a suitable CG force 
> field 
> > and then would minimize the non-bonded parameters with RE and the bonded 
> > ones with Boltzmann inversion in a semi-decoupled way? 
>

 

> Yes, do BI first and then use the bonded table in the CG run with RE 
> as fixed interactions. 
>


Right, so if the AA simulation contains just one protein plus solvent then 
the parameters would be only optimized for intra-molecular interactions. 
Would these also be transferable to a box with many proteins to simulate, 
for example, aggregation? How does one deal with inter-molecular 
interactions in the VOTCA scheme?

I guess simulating a dimer AA would improve the results but that wouldn't 
still be representative of the real situation.

Also, with respect to the force field:

As I understand it any form of potential (including coulomb) is acceptable 
as long as you express it as an interpolation with splines.


 

>
> > 
> > Also, I am having trouble running the RE tutorials, for example in the 
> > methanol and water one: firstly it doesn't run without me manually 
> changing 
> > the .mdp file to specify the cutoff scheme to be group and then it is 
> > terminated with: 
> > 
> > begin to calculate distribution functions 
> > # of bonded interactions: 0 
> > # of non-bonded interactions: 3 an error occurred: 
> > input format not supported: topol.tpr 
> This error means you have compiled VOTCA without gromacs. Just re-run 
> cmake with -DWITH_GMX=ON and rebuild with "make" again. 
>

I did that 

I have done that. Now I get a different error (when running the spce RE 
tests)

An error occurred: 
Hessian NOT a positive definite! 
This can be a result of poor initial guess or ill-suited CG potential 
settings or poor CG sampling. 

I compiled using:

./build.sh --prefix ${prefix} --minimal -DWITH_GMX=ON  -DWITH_FFTW=ON 
-DWITH_GSL=ON -DGSL_INCLUDE_DIR=/usr/local/Cellar/gsl/2.4/include 
-DGSL_LIBRARY=/usr/local/Cellar/gsl/2.4/lib/libgsl.dylib 
-DCBLAS_LIBRARY=/usr/local/Cellar/gsl/2.4/lib/libgslcblas.dylib 
-DFFTW3_INCLUDE_DIR=/usr/local/Cellar/fftw/3.3.7_1/include 
-DFFTW3_LIBRARY=/usr/local/Cellar/fftw/3.3.7_1/lib/libfftw3.dylib gromacs 
tools csg 

But then that gets translated into:

cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX='/Users/agaraizar/votca/' --no-warn-unused-cli 
-DWITH_FFTW=OFF -DWITH_GSL=OFF -DCMAKE_DISABLE_FIND_PACKAGE_GSL=ON 
-DWITH_MKL=OFF -DCMAKE_DISABLE_FIND_PACKAGE_MKL=ON -DBUILD_MANPAGES=OFF 
-DWITH_GMX=OFF -DWITH_SQLITE3=OFF -DWITH_H5MD=OFF 
-DCMAKE_DISABLE_FIND_PACKAGE_HDF5=ON -DWITH_GMX=ON -DWITH_FFTW=ON 
-DWITH_GSL=ON -DGSL_INCLUDE_DIR=/usr/local/Cellar/gsl/2.4/include 
-DGSL_LIBRARY=/usr/local/Cellar/gsl/2.4/lib/libgsl.dylib 
-DCBLAS_LIBRARY=/usr/local/Cellar/gsl/2.4/lib/libgslcblas.dylib 
-DFFTW3_INCLUDE_DIR=/usr/local/Cellar/fftw/3.3.7_1/include 
-DFFTW3_LIBRARY=/usr/local/Cellar/fftw/3.3.7_1/lib/libfftw3.dylib 
-DCMAKE_INSTALL_RPATH_USE_LINK_PATH=ON /Users/agaraizar/votca/src/csg

Thank you


> Christoph 
> > 
> > The GROMACS version I am using is the one provided by VOTCA in the build 
> > script 
> > 
> > GROMACS:      gmx, version 2016.5-dev-20180109-aa8b47218-unknown 
> Executable: 
> > /Users/agaraizar/votca/bin/gmx 
> > 
> > In the mailing list someone had a similar issue but in her case she 
> hadn't 
> > installed GROMACS 
> > 
> > Regards, 
> > 
> > Adiran 
> > 
> >> 
> >> For details about the relative entropy implementation and parallel 
> >> performance of VOTCA you can refer to the PLOS One article 
> >> https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0131754 
> > 
> > 
> > Thank you 
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> --- 
> >> Sikandar 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Christoph Junghans <[email protected]> 
>
> >> wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> Daniel, 
> >>> 
> >>> I cannot talk to efficiency of the relative entropy method, but in 
> >>> general coarse-graining a protein is hard. You need to have a good 
> >>> intuition how to do the mapping and which interaction to consider. 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> VOTCA has support for running RDF, IMC and relative entropy 
> >>> calculation in parallel. In addition you can speed up the gromacs runs 
> >>> by using a parallel gromacs as well. 
> >>> 
> > 
> > Thank you for your answer Christoph 
> > 
> >>> 
> >>> Christoph 
> >>> 
> >>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 5:17 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote: 
> >>> > Dear all, 
> >>> > 
> >>> > After reading a lot of the literature available on relative entropy 
> >>> > minimization as a coarse graining technique I am extremely keen on 
> >>> > using it 
> >>> > for my research. 
> >>> > 
> >>> > I was wondering wether it would be possible/feasible (in a 
> reasonable 
> >>> > amount 
> >>> > of time) to use VOTCA to coarse grain a protein (~500 atoms) using 
> RE. 
> >>> > 
> >>> > I am also not sure about what if any parallelization VOTCA has that 
> >>> > would 
> >>> > reduce the required time (and if it does how to use it). 
> >>> > 
> >>> > Would having a parallel GROMACS help? 
> >>> > 
> >>> > Regards and thanks in advance, 
> >>> > 
> >>> > Daniel 
> >>> > 
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