on Sun, May 08, 2005 at 07:54:23PM -0700, Bill Kendrick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 05:11:14PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > The other issues you may have to deal with: > > > > - Browsers apparently use the MIME type information concerning a file > > to figure out how to display it. See above for the .desktop > > clusterfsck WRT GNOME. Used to be something you'd manage w/in the > > browser. Oh, except when they don't. > > In KDE and Konqueror, this kind of stuff _is_ handled more globally, > but then, Konqueror's KHTML display functionality lives elsewhere outside > of Konqueror (such as in the tabbed browsing capabilities of the 'Akregator' > news feed manager/fetcher).
I don't use Konqueror much -- its feel just doesn't work for me. But... Where KDE _does_ win is that while configuration _storage_ is centralized, _access_ to the configuration tools is not. Rather, you've got multiple paths to essentially the same thing, and can configure, say, proxy settings in Konqueror _without_ diving into the central KDE configuration toolbox. While Galeon now allows this, it's a bolt-on that more-or-less opens the relevant GNOME control. I've long suspected that this is an aspect of C++ design, where the KDE configuration control classes are made accessible within whatever random object actually needs them. > And other applications have abilities to do HTTP, FTP and other kinds > of downloading (such as KGet, obviously, but also pretty much any > other KDE program in which you can open a file... feel free to > download it over HTTP instead of pulling it off your hard disk ;^) ) > > Anyway, of course, KDE seems to do a reasonable thing. When you go to > "Settings->Configure Konqueror" in Konqueror, you get a fairly intuitive > configuration window, and there's a big "File Associations" icon on the > left. Click that to bring up those specific options. Oi. *Massive* win. GNOME's utterly brain-dead here. > When you go to KDE's main configuration center, the "Control Center" > (available from the "K" start menu), you find all of these same options > stored in reasonable places, though not all buried together under > "Internet & Network -> Web Browser"... again, because it's not _just_ the > web browser that handles these kinds of things. Right. > So really, it depends on how you're going about it. And to me, at least, > it does seem to make sense. Though, everyone seems to agree that the KDE > Control Center itself is getting a little too overwhelming, and that the > tree hierarchy and search options on the left aren't the best way of going > about navigating your desktop environment's settings. GNOME's got some neat navigation assists, however they're completely hidden. E.g.: typing text in a dialog starts a little search thingie. But you wouldn't know that unless you'd been told. No context help. Another KDE win: much better on-activation feedback (in fact, too much IMO). I'm always launching five of stuff under GNOME becose there's no indication I've actually managed to launch something. > <snip> > > - As noted above, some sites (mostly corprate fsckups dependent on > > Java or Javascript) don't link directly to downloads, but to an > > intermediary page. Sometimes it's trivially possible to determine > > the proper URL, sometimes not. Worse: d/l managers from Firefox > > and Galeon (GNOME) fail to provide the specific URL currently being > > fetched in a form that allows ready cut'n'paste to a terminal. Or > > at all. > > <sacrasm> It's called "progress"! Now let's go buy another "solution" > for $10,000... *puke* Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <kmself@ix.netcom.com> http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Yes, but how do you associate preferred programs for those MIME types? - Adam Hooper, demonstrating why GNOME is reinventing Unix. Poorly.
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