Voyage gives a good base install without a lot of fluff. If you want more features, it's easy to add. It fits on 128 MB. There is something to be said about it being small - it fits on people's hardware setups that have 128MB CF cards. That way they can upgrade without replacing the CF.
I have tried webmin on voyage, (php5 and lighthttpd) but the problem is that webmin doesn't save the settings to /etc/network/interfaces. So it is only mildly useful. For the framework I downloaded a tar in http://voyage.hk/download/nightly/voyage-custom/ There are good examples there. I copied the mesh directory and modified that. Sean -----Original Message----- From: "Kim-man 'Punky' TSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:12:37 To: Jeff R. Allen<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Voyage-linux] Re: Size matters Hi Jeff, Thank you for your feedback. I am not talking about the webgui itself, but we should also take its dependent libraries into account as well. If running webgui requires apache, database backend, php/perl/python modules, php/perl/python run-time and a lot external libraries like xml, xsdl, webdav, etc., this against the approach of being small. You can still install webmin, etc. on top of voyage, as long as the CF could hold. busybox is added because of live-initramfs. (being added by debian-live in the build process - not yet figured out how to remove it) wget is added because this is frequently used utility ( I use it to download .deb kernel image and do "dpkg -i" for testing) There is constraint that Voyage can't be smaller - its the package dependency in Debian that I don't want to break. Voyage is just trying to be a smaller Debian. Hence, you enjoy both having a smaller Debian and thousands of installable Debian packages at the same time. Regards, Punky Jeff R. Allen wrote: >> Design philosophy and guidelines: >> 1. Small. It must be damn small in size as it runs on embedded system. >> 2. Extensible. It must be easily extensible to add support for managing new >> > > I agree in principle, but I note that 1 gig CF cards are now USD 11, > which puts them in reach of all but the most cost-sensitive > applications. An ALIX 2c2 with case and 1gig CF is USD 125 + 9 + 11 = > 145. The CF card makes up 7% of the parts cost. > > I agree that the default install of Voyage should stay small, small, > small (it's actually already too big for my tastes -- why does it have > busybox AND wget, for example?). I'm looking for the right choice of > what bigger packages to add to my base install as I've already > budgeted for the larger CF. > > I'm going to investigate webmin today. I know it has the kitchen-sink > approach, but I'm wondering if maybe I can get the kind of control I > want, and turn off the things I don't want. > > -jeff > -- Regards, Punky Voyage Solutions (http://solution.voyage.hk) * Embedded Solutions and Systems - Mesh Networking, Captive Portal, IP Surveillance, VoIP/PBX - Network Engineering, Development Platform and Consultation _______________________________________________ Voyage-linux mailing list Voyage-linux@list.voyage.hk http://list.voyage.hk/mailman/listinfo/voyage-linux
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