Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 20-Jul-01, you wrote:
>> "Real" web developers use weblint, not Voyager, to make sure
>> their code is sane ;)
>
> I know, but the web is also a place where many 'amateurs' (as opposed to
> professionals) make web pages. They don't use weblint or any other
> 'development' tools, they're happy if their browser 'shows the page'. That's
> all I meant.
Well they aren't going to care if their page is non-compliant if they're
an amateur. So why bother?
>> Considering that IE either follows precisely or adds to the
>> JS specifications, and Netscape couldn't even be bothered to
>> iron out the bugs in their own language implementation, I'd
>> rather use IE.
>
> I haven't had NN crash more or less times on me than IE, but that's probably
> the 'your mileage may vary' category.
Maybe you're unlucky with IE, but I know a lot of people who would
disagree with your statements about Navigator not being crashy ;)
>> Then why say that Microsoft have ruined the browser by making it
>> forgiving, and implying that it is some nefarious tactic?
>
> I didn't say they ruined the browser. See the comment about 'amateur' web
> developers above.
Amateur web developers don't give a shit how compliant their code is,
so why bother telling them it's not compliant?
>> So what *is* your post about? All I saw was a "there's good reason for
>> browsers to be strict!",
>
> No, I provided a possible reason. An explanation. I did not say whether I
> considered it a good reason or not.
So in theory a strict browser would be cool, but you're not asking anyone
to develop one or maintain such strict practices.. okay.. so where did you
decide that the entire list lacks the common sense that makes this totally
obvious, or make the decision that you thought it needed to be said?
> Again, didn't say that. Like I explained, the JS stuff I wrote was more
> difficult to get to work in IE than NN, Opera or Aweb. That's my experience.
"You suck" :)
>> Are you just trying to be clever, because there's no point
>> to your post if it's not a suggestion for stricter compliance
>> in V, for "developers" if noone else..
>
> That was exactly the suggestion. "developers", with quotes. Because there
> are way more of those than ones without quotes. That's all.
Developers use real tools meant for the purpose. Amateurs wouldn't want
to use them. Since there are tools that supplement the browser for code
checking for REAL developers, the browser doesn't need to be strict. And if
an amateur would not use these tools, would they really use the browser?
No. Nobody cares about how compliant their code is unless it's some kind
of requirement - and the only people that have these requirements are
people who *do* use weblint ;)
Thanks
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Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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