I tend to prefer permitlist/denylist personally... but I may have
configured one too many ACLs in my life...

Ed

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 12:49 PM Christian Hopps <cho...@chopps.org> wrote:

>
>
> > On Jul 14, 2020, at 1:20 PM, St Leger, Jim <jim.st.le...@intel.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I believe the DPDK community converged on:
> > master/slave lcore -> initial/worker lcore
>
> VPP is ok here I think with "main" and "worker".
>
> > blacklist/whitelist -> blocklist/allowlist
>
> That one feels a bit clunky to me. I wonder why they didn't go for
> something more natural like
>
>   nouns: blocked/allowed
>   verbs: block/allow
>
> The terms blacklist/whitelist can be a nouns or verbs, and I suspect they
> are often not implemented as an actual list data structure, so trying to
> keep the "list" suffix seems an unnecessary carryover (and sounds clunky
> IMHO). :)
>
> Thanks,
> Chris.
>
> >
> > Full community discussion:
> https://mails.dpdk.org/archives/dev/2020-June/thread.html#169337
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vpp-dev@lists.fd.io <vpp-dev@lists.fd.io> On Behalf Of Jerome
> Tollet via lists.fd.io
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 10:10 AM
> > To: Chris Luke <chris_l...@comcast.com>; Steven Luong (sluong) <
> slu...@cisco.com>; Dave Barach (dbarach) <dbar...@cisco.com>; Kinsella,
> Ray <m...@ashroe.eu>; Stephen Hemminger <step...@networkplumber.org>;
> vpp-dev@lists.fd.io; t...@lists.fd.io; Ed Warnicke (eaw) <e...@cisco.com>
> > Subject: Re: [tsc] [vpp-dev] Replacing master/slave nomenclature
> >
> > Hi Chris,
> > I suspect it would be good to align on the new bond nomenclature coming
> from other projects. DPDK and Linux are probably starting points we should
> consider IMO.
> > Jerome
> >
> > Le 14/07/2020 18:45, « t...@lists.fd.io au nom de Chris Luke » <
> t...@lists.fd.io au nom de chris_l...@comcast.com> a écrit :
> >
> >    It is subjective and contextualized. But in this case, if making the
> effort to correct a wrong, why stop half way?
> >
> >    Chris.
> >
> >    -----Original Message-----
> >    From: vpp-dev@lists.fd.io <vpp-dev@lists.fd.io> On Behalf Of Jerome
> Tollet via lists.fd.io
> >    Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:37
> >    To: Steven Luong (sluong) <slu...@cisco.com>; Dave Barach (dbarach) <
> dbar...@cisco.com>; Kinsella, Ray <m...@ashroe.eu>; Stephen Hemminger <
> step...@networkplumber.org>; vpp-dev@lists.fd.io; t...@lists.fd.io; Ed
> Warnicke (eaw) <e...@cisco.com>
> >    Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [vpp-dev] Replacing master/slave nomenclature
> >
> >    Hi Steven,
> >    Please note that per this proposition,
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/7/4/229__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!QdLdxm4rtZW-mFe5jt_qzEpx-_X2KWnqvjyEl-7Py41jsEV7FrnEw0lTNcF8LdfUzQ$
> , slave must be avoided but master can be kept.
> >    Maybe master/member or master/secondary could be options too.
> >    Jerome
> >
> >    Le 14/07/2020 18:32, « vpp-dev@lists.fd.io au nom de steven luong
> via lists.fd.io » <vpp-dev@lists.fd.io au nom de sluong=
> cisco....@lists.fd.io> a écrit :
> >
> >        I am in the process of pushing a patch to replace master/slave
> with aggregator/member for the bonding.
> >
> >        Steven
> >
> >        On 7/13/20, 4:44 AM, "vpp-dev@lists.fd.io on behalf of Dave
> Barach via lists.fd.io" <vpp-dev@lists.fd.io on behalf of dbarach=
> cisco....@lists.fd.io> wrote:
> >
> >            +1, especially since our next release will be supported for a
> year, and API name changes are involved...
> >
> >            -----Original Message-----
> >            From: Kinsella, Ray <m...@ashroe.eu>
> >            Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 6:01 AM
> >            To: Dave Barach (dbarach) <dbar...@cisco.com>; Stephen
> Hemminger <step...@networkplumber.org>; vpp-dev@lists.fd.io;
> t...@lists.fd.io; Ed Warnicke (eaw) <e...@cisco.com>
> >            Subject: Re: [vpp-dev] Replacing master/slave nomenclature
> >
> >            Hi Stephen,
> >
> >            I agree, I don't think we should ignore this.
> >            Ed - I suggest we table a discussion at the next FD.io TSC?
> >
> >            Ray K
> >
> >            On 09/07/2020 17:05, Dave Barach via lists.fd.io wrote:
> >> Looping in the technical steering committee...
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: vpp-dev@lists.fd.io <vpp-dev@lists.fd.io> On Behalf Of Stephen
> Hemminger
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 7:02 PM
> >> To: vpp-dev@lists.fd.io
> >> Subject: [vpp-dev] Replacing master/slave nomenclature
> >>
> >> Is the VPP project addressing the use of master/slave nomenclature in
> the code base, documentation and CLI?  We are doing this for DPDK and it
> would be good if the replacement wording used in DPDK matched the wording
> used in FD.io projects.
> >>
> >> Particularly problematic is the use of master/slave in bonding.
> >> This seems to be a leftover from Linux, since none of the commercial
> products use that terminology and it is not present in 802.1AX standard.
> >>
> >> The IEEE and IETF are doing an across the board look at these terms in
> standards.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 
>
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