On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 02:35:18PM +0000, Jesper Krogh wrote:
> I gmane.linux.vserver, skrev Herbert Poetzl:
> >  On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 08:40:09AM +0000, Jesper Krogh wrote:
> > > I gmane.linux.vserver, skrev Dariush Pietrzak:
> > > > > I'd really like to test this vserver thing out, but currently 
> > > > > it clashes with my policy of only installing things through 
> > > > > the packages system on my computers. 
> > 
> >  well, either you start building packages for your
> >  package system, you rethink your policy, or you
> >  choose not to test 'this vserver thing' ...
> 
> Sure..  I'll go that way. I'd just like to know if the were available
> somewhere, so I could skip kernel compilation. 
> 
> > > I tried make-kpkg yesterday with the debian-kernel 2.6.9 source and
> > > vserver patch, that actually worked, (in regards to vserver) but failed
> > > getting pcmcia/wireless to work. 
> > 
> >  well, debian source is debian source, linux-vserver
> >  patches are based on the vanilla kernel not on some
> >  distro kernel ...
> 
> Ok.. so I'll go for the vanilla kernel in the next try. 
> 
> > > I'd really like to have a couple of vservers at my laptop for testing
> > > software installations :-) Isn't this a common usage of Vservers?
> > 
> >  yes, it is also common practice to avoid debian
> >  to get a working linux-vserver setup ...
> 
> For any particular reason? 

well, a few would be:

 - they provide outdated tools
 - they modify the tools until they stop working
 - tools are added which do not work as expected
 - default settings for kernel and vservers are insecure
 - they do not care about their linux-vserver users
 - it causes a lot of unneccessary work for the 
   linux-vserver development folks

best,
Herbert

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