On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 03:55:10PM +0200, Herbert Poetzl wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 12:15:05AM +0200, Gerald Hochegger wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 11:30:50AM +0200, Herbert Poetzl wrote:
> > > sure I _could_ support a dapper vserver kernel, but,
> > > and here is the important fact, this would not scale ...
> > > 
> > > in the very near future, I'd be supporting 20 different
> > > kernels from at least 10 different distros, and there
> > > would be no time left for development, so some other
> > > model is required to solve this, and it's actually
> > > quite simple ...
> > > 
> > >  a) somebody steps up as 'new' maintainer for a dapper
> > >     vserver kernel (preferable stable and devel)
> > > 
> > I'm willing to help, but i'm a little anxious with the
> > stepping forward as my free time is very limited.
> >  
> > >  b) that somebody commits himself/herself to tracking 
> > >     changes in dapper _and_ vserver in the forseeable 
> > >     future
> > > 
> > I'm using a script to automate this task, so tracking
> > a stable Ubuntu release and a stable Vserver release
> > should be quite straightforward.
> > (script and patches are available at
> >  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VServer) 
> > 
> > >  c) that person contacts me and we arrange to do an
> > >     initial port on that kernel, something which can
> > >     be considered a _known_good_ state
> > >
> > For Ubuntu the Dapper 2.6.15.6 kernel and 2.0.2 Vserver
> > patch (slightly modified for dapper) would be a good start.
> 
> is there any reason for not supporting the devel branch?
> (not that I have a problem with that, just curious)
> 
I'll try to build vserver devel kernel packages after Dapper is
released and the Dapper+1 kernel (2.6.17rc..) appears.

Till summer I don't have the time to track two branches.

> > >  d) extensive testing has to follow, we don't want to
> > >     have folks run into merge issues, this is where
> > >     the dapper-vserver community comes into play
> > > 
> > >  e) all changes to stable and devel are released in
> > >     small patches, which the maintainer has to check
> > >     and if required discuss with me
> > > 
> > Are the small patches the delta- patches on
> > http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/ ?
> 
> yes, those and the ones here:
> http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Devel
> 
> > Which delta- patches are combined in the bigger 
> > release and -rc diffs ?
> 
> usually all those patches in Devel sum up to the
> finla release, modulo changes regarding kernel 
> versions, but I'm lazy, so it may take some time
> until the deltas from Experimental make it there
>
So vserver-patch 2.0.2-rc13 for 2.6.15.6 is made up of:
  Devel/PAT-2.0.0/  +
  Devel/PAT-2.0.1/  +
  Devel/PAT-2.0.2/  +
  Devel/PAT-2.6.15  +
  some Experimental deltas  ?


greetings,
Gerald
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