ok, you guys have jogged my memory :) interactive was meant to mean 'you can step through the code line by line debug style' vs. a browser that would only allow execution in realtime..so yes, you could interpret this to mean text, but it didn't really explicitly say text input was allowed, so it seems like in order to enable/disable the text input dialog you'd have to come out and query for something else.
----- Original Message ---- From: Mike Greenawalt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Voice Tools general developers <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 2, 2008 6:57:45 PM Subject: Re: [vtp-dev] Re: [JVoiceXML-developer] Text based VTP extension Dirk, your comments are worth far more than 2 cents! ;-) I am still of the opinion that CAPABILITY_INTERACTIVE fills the bill for your suggested CAPABILITY_TEXT. The Javadoc comment about it is sufficiently vague, I think, to allow that. If we add a mechanism for entering text to the browser, are we not just a step away from defining a mechanism for "playing" a dialog to the browser? That seems useful for testing an application. Does not seem like it would be too hard to read a file and send text line by line to the browser. Can you offer any more specs for VoiceXMLBrowserOutput? Browsers with which I am familiar don't do any output beyond the audio response and the log, so I guess I don't quite 'get' the idea of VoiceXMLBrowserOutput. -- Mike Dirk Schnelle wrote: > My $.02: > > Unfortuntately the current javadoc comment does not state directly the > purpose of the capability. It reads: > This capability indicates that this VoiceXML browser is capable of > responding to requests to sendInput(). > > sendInput() in turn uses VoiceXMLBrowserInput which can be used to > deliverthe user's input as a string to the voice browser. > > Our intention for text based interaction goes beyond this. It requires > an additional VoiceXMLBrowserOutput. IMHO this can not be covered by > the log panel. > > So the current concepts point into this direction but require more > thinking. > > /dirk >> >> Honestly, it's been so long, my memory is completely gone :) >> >> >> >> If the interactive capability's purpose isn't clear to everyone, and >> there's no javadoc on the matter, that should say something..breaking >> the API is never a good idea if it can be avoided but I haven't seen >> any consumers of that constant in existence so I think it might be >> safer to clarify the naming. >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Mike Greenawalt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: Voice Tools general developers <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, June 2, 2008 12:05:41 AM >> Subject: Re: [vtp-dev] Re: [JVoiceXML-developer] Text based VTP extension >> >> I have looked at the patch. Looks OK on visual inspection, but I have >> not yet checked it out live. >> >> There has been a suggestion that CAPABILITY_TEXT be added to the >> IVoiceXMLBrowser interface, and that be used to control the actual >> availability of the text input. The patch has been implemented to check >> the existing capability, CAPABILITY_INTERACTIVE to achieve that control. >> >> As far as I know, CAPABILITY_INTERACTIVE was intended for just that >> purpose -- to indicate the browser could interpret text utterances. Why >> don't we leave it at that, and not put in the new capability? >> >> Brent cooked all this up originally, perhaps he remembers a different >> intent for CAPABILITY_INTERACTIVE. >> >> -- Mike >> >> Trip Gilman wrote: >> > I believe the first run of the work is sitting in bugzilla in a patch. >> > I was going to try to apply it, but since Dirk will be joining us >> > shortly I put that on hold. Mike, if you want to pop it into the >> > repository now I’m good with that. >> > >> > Trip >> > >> > >> > On 5/30/08 5:17 AM, "Mike Greenawalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: >> > >> > Has a bug been filed against this enhancement effort? I need >> > something on which to hang any work I might do about it. >> > >> > -- Mike >> > >> > Trip Gilman wrote: >> > >> > >> > I'm very glad to see this moving forward. I was hoping Mike >> > Greenawalt was >> > still around to point you guys in the right direction. Mike >> > had signed up >> > to maintain that section of the code base, but may have moved >> > on to other >> > pastures. >> > >> > Also, I haven't moved the browser code over to the new svn >> > repository >> > yet because I wasn't sure if anyone was going to continue work >> > on it. Just >> > let me know which components you need moved and I'll >> > transition them to the >> > new repository. >> > >> > Trip Gilman >> > >> > >> > On 4/29/08 8:10 AM, "Aurelian Maga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Hi Dirk, >> > >> > I totally agree. >> > >> > Relu. >> > >> > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Hi Relu, >> > >> > I CC this mail to the VTP mailing list to keep them >> > up to date about our >> > activities at JVoiceXml regarding a VTP extension. >> > >> > I had a look at your extension to support text based >> > input fort he VTP >> > debug view. You realized this requirement by a small >> > input box and a >> > button to submit the entered data. This is OK for a >> > first approach. >> > >> > I have the following suggestions for improvement: >> > >> > - we should extend >> > org.eclipse.vtp.launching.IVoiceXMLBrowser by the >> > property CAPABILITY_TEXT >> > - text based interaction should only be allowed if >> > the browser >> > implementation returns this property upon >> > hasCapability request >> > - the input field is a bit small. Would it be good >> > to have the >> > possibility to toggle the log and dialog view? The >> > dialog view reflects >> > the system response and the user input. >> > >> > What do you think? >> > >> > -dirk >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > >> > >> > This SF.net <http://sf.net/> email is sponsored by >> the 2008 >> > JavaOne(SM) Conference >> > Don't miss this year's exciting event. 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