Good info.  Thanks David.

I live verrrry close to the Cedar and have been looking forward to this.
It's a perfect size of river to take my 12 y.o. wading on.  It's also the
first place I caught a fish on a fly at - I think I was 7 years old.

The thing that you said in your message that I'm most concerned with is the
fact that this season is experimental.  I hope very much that the river gets
respect from the fishers that are sure to pound it real soon.  I know all of
us on this list respect the places we fish and carry our trash out - in this
case I think it's going to be really important for us to compensate for
those who don't act so responsibly.  In fact, before I fish on Tuesday and
beyond on the Cedar, I will have the poaching hotline as well as local
sheriff's office numbers pre-programmed in my cell.  It goes without saying,
but I'll say it anyway... we need to respect and protect this opportunity.
:)

-tight lines-
Jim

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 11:31 PM
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Subject: The Cedar


My boy and I stopped by the Cedar River tonight at the
Maple Valley (at the bridges by the Testy Chef) to
quietly scope out the place.  The place is crawling
with .... other guys who have the same idea!  In the
one hour we were there we saw four other guys clearly
scoping out the river.  I have a feeling that Tuesday
is going to be a ZOO.

At this month's meeting of the newly resurrected South
Lake Washington Chapter of Trout Unlimited, we had as
the speaker, the distinguished activist and president
of the South King County chapter, Frank Urabeck.
Urabeck has been instrumental in many high-profile
trout-related events such as:
   * The Lake Washington Sockeye season a couple of
years ago
   * The removal of the three sealions at the locks
   * The marking of all hatchery salmon in the state
   * And now the 2004 trout season on the Cedar

According to Urabeck, the Cedar was originally closed
to protect the dwindling steelhead returns.  The
closure, plus the removal of sealions at the Ballard
locks, allowed the steelhead returns to become quite
strong in recent years (up to 600 a couple of years
ago).  However, this year only 20 have returned.  One
operating theory for the dwindling is that the trout
in the Cedar have gotten so big that they are eating
or displacing the steelhead.  So the river is being
opened to thin out some of these fish.

Also, the Muckleshoot have been fishing in the river
for a couple of years now so TU prodded the WDFW to
open the river to the rest of us. TU wanted a
catch-and-keep policy, but WDFW wouldn't go that far;
WFDW assumes that 1 in 10 of the C&R fish will die
from handling anyway.

The 2004 trout season is definitely still an
experiment. The WFDW has only agreed to seasons
through 2005.

Steve Foley, the WFDW biologist, thinks the 20" fish
in the river ARE the steelhead who have simply become
non-andromonus.  He will be our next guest speaker.




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