Check out Bob Meiser's site for some good information on switch rods.  There
is a link on the Spey site, if not I put one below.  Besides reading what he
has to say, don't be afraid to mail him direct with questions.  He will send
you detailed responses.  He also has a nice program to let you try his rods
on a 30-day try before you buy program.

http://www.meiserflyrods.com/rodseries.html


Mike



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of T. Lang
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 11:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Lincoln Park This AM (TH)

Thanks, Leland.  I have, in fact, spent a little time on the Spey pages, but

didn't see the switch rods.

I also noticed your moderator status.  Cool.

I met Jimmy's new dog today, as did my dog.  My old dog unfortunately 
doesn't have much patience for the young whipper-snappers.  He went back in 
the truck.

For those of you curious about the Popper, there are several examples on 
display at Patrick's.

Tom

>From: Leland Miyawaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Lincoln Park This AM (TH)
>Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:50:47 -0700
>
>Tom,
>
>The two rods are specifically designed for overhead or speycasting 
>respectively. However there are "hybrids" called switch rods that a few 
>manufacturers market. If you you really want to know more, go to a website 
>that is specific to all things spey. It is a part of the forum called Spey 
>Pages. Simply scroll through the homesite until you get to it. You'll also 
>see that I am the moderator of the pacific salt page.
>
>Leland.
>
>
>
>
>>Okay, now I'm truly fascinated.  I've been considering entering the Spey 
>>realm, and I've also been considering buying a single-handed 6wt for both 
>>the beach and summer steel.  Could this new Atlantis work as both a two 
>>handed casting rod on the beach, and as a smaller, light-weight spey rod 
>>on streams?
>>
>>Obviously, my experience and education are lacking, but it seems to me 
>>that the extra length of the rod, and the extra control and leverage 
>>provided by using two hands, would make the same rod work in both cases.
>>
>>Is my grasp of fly rod physics and line mechanics misguided?
>>
>>Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: Leland Miyawaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Subject: RE: Lincoln Park This AM (TH)
>>>Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 16:48:46 -0700
>>>
>>>Not speyrod but a two-handed, overhead casting rod like the new CND 
>>>Atlantis. A couple of our listmembers have cast this rod. I am awaiting 
>>>the delivery of a "Pacifica" model. An 11', 8wt.
>>>
>>>One can speycast into the salt but you cannot retreive the fly all the 
>>>way in to the beach unless you enjoy working a 50' head back out through 
>>>the guides in order to begin casting the rod. The Atlantis throws 
>>>shooting heads. In fact, if you want distance off your single-hander get 
>>>a head and start throwing it. Old-timers have known this for many years.
>>>
>>>Leland.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Having no experience spey casting yet, I was wondering if a spey rod 
>>>>would
>>>>get you the extra 10 - 20 feet that seems to be needed?
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Harris
>>>>Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 3:20 PM
>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>Subject: RE: Lincoln Park This AM (TH)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The common factor here seems to be that everywhere the fish are hanging 
>>>> >70'
>>>>from the shore - we've seen it in the south sound, mid-sound, and north
>>>>sound.  Anyone in a boat get out a bit and see if these guys are 
>>>>actually
>>>>taking?  We need to find a way to call them in closer!   Even at low 
>>>>tide I
>>>>found they were way out in places where last year I was getting them 
>>>>just
>>>>within casting range from shore in low-to-mid tide levels.
>>>>
>>>>Tim
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leland 
>>>>Miyawaki
>>>>Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 2:50 PM
>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>Subject: Re: Lincoln Park This AM (TH)
>>>>
>>>>Matt,
>>>>
>>>>I've never believed returning salmon to be selective in their eating
>>>>habits when it comes to baitfish. Their drive is to put weight on
>>>>quickly, especially this time of year. Resident salmon, in the winter
>>>>are another story. When they're on euphasid and amphipods, ya gotta
>>>>give 'em what they're eatin'.
>>>>
>>>>Leland.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Leland,
>>>>>
>>>>>Last couple times I've been out around Everett beaches, the big guys
>>>>>seem
>>>>to
>>>>>be hanging out just out of reach too.  Got a question for you.  Of the
>>>>>bait fish that I'm seeing, most are of the salmon/smelt/herring/sand
>>>>>lance
>>>>shape,
>>>>>long, thin and torpedo shaped.  And then there are oval, tall bodied
>>>>>bait fish.  I'm thinking these are the surfperch variety with very
>>>>>bright shiny sides.  I know the big guys are feeding on these because I
>>>>>have seen cripples hugging the beach, all by themselves, just trying to
>>>>>stay up right as if they got tagged and were trying to recover.  Does
>>>>>that sound right to you and should I drop the herring imitations and
>>>>>try serf perch imitations?
>>>>>
>>>>>Matt Burke
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Leland Miyawaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 12:52 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: Lincoln Park This AM (TH)
>>>>>
>>>>>>   I stopped by Lincoln this morning just after the turn and walked 
>>>>>>out  to the point in my civvies to see if there was any action. I saw 
>>>>>>one  nice-sized "happy jumper" within casting range on the edge of the

>>>>>>rip  just after it formed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Earlier, I was a bit north on a beach with my 10wt looking for some

>>>>>>  kings that might want to eat my crippled baitfish. Yesterday, I had 
>>>>>>a  couple roll just outside of where I was casting so I thought that  
>>>>>>with a little bit more effort, I could cover those that showed up  
>>>>>>today. I also armed myself with a bigger stick, just in case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   I did see two schools of salmon (I'm guessing coho) meander about
>>>>>>  for  about two hours. In the flat light, I could sometimes see heads
>>>>>>  and  porpoising bodies with an occassional flash of silver but they
>>>>>>  never  came in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Leland.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   >Fished this AM from 6 - 7.  Slight breeze, salad was not an issue.

>>>>>>  >Neither, apparently, were the fish.  >
>>>>>>   >Watched a seal, watched fish of various sizes splash and porpoise
>>>>>>   >(occasionally) beyond shore.  Fished poppers of various sizes and
>>>>  >>  >colors.  Had one boil as I was reeling in.
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   >No action for the two gear guys, either.
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   >Next time....
>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>   >Tom
>>>>>>   >
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